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Lyric is available as Dual Position Air/ Solo Air / Coil. What do those terms mean generally?

My speculations are leading me nowhere. If Dual Air means no hydraulic cylinder, how can the fork have Damping: Rebound? Solo air is pretty clear, but what about coil - is it a coil in one boot and hydraulic unit in the other, or two coils?

On a related note, do there exist shocks with both air and coil spring in the same time? If so, what is the point? How can one discern them?

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There are two parts to a fork, the spring and the damper. Solo air, dual air and coil are all types of spring and absorb energy when the fork is compressed. The damper, which is the part of the suspension system that removes oscillation after the spring has absorbed energy and is returning, is generally a hydraulic system filled with oil. The Lyric has an oil damper as well as a coil or air spring.

A modern air spring generally has two chambers one positive and negative, the positive provides resistance against compression and the negative resistance against rebound as the spring returns to it's normal length.

Solo and Dual air are RockShox terms for their proprietary air spring system and relates to the way the shock is filled, but both are dual chamber. Until Solo air forks became available (2012 or 2013 forks) it was necessary to tune both chambers to get sag and rebound correct, now solo air is a single fill system that does this much more easily. Dual air (as opposed to dual position air) has now been replaced completely by solo air on the RockShox range.

Dual Position Air

Dual Position Air is another proprietary RockShox technology and is a type of air spring that allows for travel to changed between two travel lengths through a lever on the crown. It acts in the same way as a solo air spring but gives the rider greater choice on a ride.

A coil fork uses a mechanical spring in place of an air spring. A coil spring is simply that, a big metal spring.

The benefits of the two types are often debated. A dual chamber air spring fork is lighter than a coil spring but requires more tuning. A coil fork has a finite stroke length so the rebound is smoother at the end of the stroke and makes the fork feel more plush throughout the stroke.

It would be redundant to have both a air spring and coil spring in a fork, as both are springs and neither are dampers. The fork would bounce back and oscillate (bounce up and down like a spring until all energy was released). There have however been bikes with two stage suspension systems like the Elite9 which used dual rear shocks and could effectively line up a coil and air spring shock.

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Thanks. This 'Dual Air' was really puzzling me. –  Vorac May 7 at 8:23

I've been screwing around with a few forks lately, so I'll take a whack at it. Dual position air is actually a technology that lets you change the travel on the fly. I would assume that solo air is also pnematic, but lacking this feature. Coil seems to be completely non-pneumatic.

There are forks that have chambers with air and springs. I know for a fact that the pilot air sl is one of them.

UPDATE: I have no idea

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By hydraulic I am referring to the damping system, using oil. Compressing gasses is known as pneumatics as far as I know. –  Vorac Apr 30 at 14:50
    
Yeah you're right –  Booker Apr 30 at 14:52
    
AFAIK all forks are hydraulic, in that at least one chamber takes oil –  Booker Apr 30 at 14:56
    
There exist cheep forks that use elastomers for dampening and have coil springs in both legs. However, I do not know about mid-range an racing forks. Hence the question. –  Vorac Apr 30 at 15:00

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