Bicycles Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for people who build and repair bicycles, people who train cycling, or commute on bicycles. It's 100% free, no registration required.

Sign up
Here's how it works:
  1. Anybody can ask a question
  2. Anybody can answer
  3. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top

FedEx has a large package for me, and it has me wondering--what's the best way to carry a large box on a bike with a rear rack? What types of tie-downs, knots, etc should be used?

For context, this is a "regular" bike (not any kind of cargo bike) with a typical rear-rack. The box is likely 12"x18"x28", and around 20 pounds and the ride is fairly short. I'm looking for a simple solution that is primarily stable and secure; I can take a while to tie it on, and I can go slowly getting it home.

share|improve this question
up vote 9 down vote accepted

Most racks have a platform about 3"-4" wide and about 12" long. Usually 20 pounds is well within the weight limits. This means that weight isn't an issue, but keeping the item steady is. Your package needs to be fairly stiff for this to have any hope of working, since the rack platform is so much smaller. A porteur-style large-platform front rack or a trailer would probably be better than a normal back-rack.

First recommendation: take a friend. This will be hard to attach with a kickstand holding up your bike (or the bike leaned up against something). It'll be easier if the bike is held straight upright and if you only have to wrestle one thing at a time.

I would place it so that it's low and is "wider" rather than "longer". There seems to be a natural tendency to want to line up more with the rack, but in my experience that's actually less stable because so much hangs off of the back.

In other words, 12" as the "height", 18" as the length and 28" as the width.

It's likely that this is tall enough to bump into the seat, so it'll tend to be right behind the seat, which may mean you can't quite use all of the rack platform.

I would use compression straps or bungee cords, rops knots take too much technique and time to pull tight and if it's loose or can slip loose it will wobble too much. If it's straps you want something that has a buckling mechanism that you can pull tight and locks up well. If it's bungees you'll want to work out what the reasonably-stretched-out length is (usually about 50% more than the unstretched length).

Exactly how to hook things will depend greatly on the exact details of your rack construction, but there's always some way to hook things on.

Straps: 2 over 62" long, and 2 over 80" long. Likely that 6' and 9' are the lengths you can find. Basically, long enough to go around the box front-to-back and side-to-side, with a little extra for going around some of the rack stuff and for pulling stuff tight.

Bungees: 2 with a reasonably stretched length of about 46" and 2 with a reasonably stretched length about 76". (or combine bungees together).

Using the shorter straps or bungees, go from the front left of the rack to the back left of the rack with one, and front right to back right with the other. If the bungee is a little too long, try running through the rack and attach to the seat stay or something like that. If you've done things right at this point, you should find that pressing on the far right or far left stretches the other bungee enough that there's a decent amount of resistance and the package snaps back. It's important that these two be the same tension.

Then run straps or bungees left-to-right around the package at the front and back of the rack. If the "front" is too close to the front of the package itself slide it back a little as appropriate, of course. It's okay if these two are a little different in tension.

Essentially, I'm suggesting you run one strap/bungee on the right side like this:
bungees on right side of package

One strap/bungee on the left side like this:
bungees on left side of package

One left-to-right around near the front of the rack like this: bungees on front of package bungees on front, low view

And one left-to-right nearer the rear of the rack (no picture).

Believe it or not, just both front-to-back bungee runs or the frontmost left-to-right bungee run is quite secure already, because any attempts on the part of the package to twist out of alignment mean stretching the bungee further. Combining both means it's also impossible for the package to slide out of the bungees.

I would avoid any diagonal strap/bungee runs, those will tend to pull the package twisted which is less stable.

share|improve this answer
3  
I love compression straps, they're much more secure than bungee cords. (Although several bungee cords can also do the job well.) You can get them in any store that sells hardware, or smaller versions in any camping supply store. (I use those to hold camping gear on my rack when touring.) – Neil Fein Aug 1 '11 at 22:44
    
+1 absolutely perfect answer. – zenbike Aug 2 '11 at 3:15
    
Top marks for pictures with this answer. I have gone a long way with boxes balanced on the handlebars wedged against my chest. Far from ideal, however it is amazing what you can carry on a bike if you put your mind to it. My last stupidly sized objects were a wicker chair, a large flatscreen tv and a bike-box. – ʍǝɥʇɐɯ Aug 2 '11 at 18:49
    
@ʍǝɥʇɐɯ, sadly I only had enough bungee to photo one at a time. The two in the photo are about enough to attach a six pack of beer and 3 plastic (or cloth bags same size) grocery bags. (or 2 six packs and 2 bags). – freiheit Aug 2 '11 at 18:52
    
Depending on the weight and size you may find it easier to balance the package on the handlebars. Depending on your bravery, skill and road conditions it's possible to carry something like an 800 wide by 2m long trestle table on the bars this way. Or you can balance it across the rear rack, but then it's a giant parachute, where longways on the handlebars it's horizontal and just annoyingly large. – BlamBlamBlam Dec 7 '15 at 1:34

I'd go with a tramping back pack (hiking pack). The only gotcha is they can come up high behind the head, interfering with the back of your helmet and limiting over-the-shoulder views.

I have an old external-frame pack, and if you unbuckle the canvas its essentially a pack-board. Works well for carrying things.

If you carry big packages often by bike, consider buying or making a trailer. A sack barrow and a hitch may be a good starting point.

This lightweight trailer is $250 NZD complete and can carry 70 Kilograms / 150 Libs, or 100 litres of space. enter image description here

share|improve this answer
1  
A sack barrow is typically narrow and has small, bouncy wheels. From experience they tip over easily. A proper bike trailer is much better. – BlamBlamBlam Dec 7 '15 at 1:32
    
@Mσᶎ Absolutely agreed, but trailers are $250 for a small one new. Used ones should be available on ebay or craigslist of gumtree or trademe for less. A sackbarrow lying in a similar position to the above image might be a start, but you're right its not ideal. Plus having to fab up some kind of drawbar and hitch that doesn't mess up the wheels, axle or braking. Watch this space.... – Criggie Dec 7 '15 at 1:53
1  
But a trailer you can really only use for things you don't care about is almost anti-useful. We used one for filming from and it was brilliant, except for the couple of times the camera operator tipped off the trailer and rolled along the road. With a sack of rice on it speed was limited to about 10kph, so it was better than walking... just. This is with the handle end just ocky strapped to a rear rack, if you made a proper non-tilting hitch... you'd be more than half way to building a proper trailer. – BlamBlamBlam Dec 7 '15 at 2:15

I just tried using a sackbarrow as a trailer, and it was workable, but not recommended.

That's a "trailgator" kids bike comealong joiner. The clamp that goes on the kid's bike's head tube is bolted to the handle of the barrow, the eagle-eyed will notice a spare crank arm used as packing for this test.

The arm can be almost twice as long, but compressed was long enough for this test.

Problems:

  • The small ~6 inch wheels are terribly bouncy and noisy at any pressure. Adding some weight certainly helped this.

  • Lack of rotational joint meant there was often a barrow wheel off the ground when empty.

  • Sharp turns brought the main beam in contact with the rider's thigh.

  • Most of the weight is on two quick release bolts, so that's the limiting factor. These two bolts (one vertical and one horizontal) provide the freedom for the main beam to move up/down and left/right.

On the other hand, it definitely worked and would let you tow the box or maybe 50 kilograms of stuff. I should have fastened it lower on the seat post, but that would mean the rack was unusable.

sack-trailer

That weird black arm is supposed to clip to the kid's handlebars to stop them turning while being towed.

share|improve this answer
    
Sorry for abusing answers to post this, but I couldn't put a picture in a comment, and its not a new question at all. – Criggie Dec 8 '15 at 9:22

I have transported a lot of loads like this on my bicycle rack without problems. The load should be no problem for a usual bicycle rack but there might be a problem with the balance, so you will need to strap it down pretty good.

With strapping down comes more pressure on the package, that might mean you might need a more stable package.

For strapping I use old tubes. They are elastic, nearly unbreakable and if you form a knot it will not get off so easily. Another argument is that there is no scratching of your bicycles paint. Just use 3 of them, tie 2 trough the rack and one through the seatpost and you should be ready to go.

I always have an old tube on my rack in case I need to carry some stuff.

share|improve this answer

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.