I am looking for the type of "cycle touring shoe" we had before cleated, clipless became the norm. I have used clipless 'touring', i.e., non-racing, shoes without the cleat but the soles are thick to accomodate the inset cleat. The old cycle touring shoes had thin soles and without the heavy lugging of modern clipless shoes meant for cleats. Most cyclist don't use cleats. Why can't we find cycle specific shoes for non-cleat use? How about in the rest of the world where faux racing styles don't dominate as in North America?
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The Quoc Pham shoes are nice: they do recessed-cleat "touring" ones, but also plain leather shoes with thin, fairly rigid soles, suitable for flat pedals or toe clips & straps. They seem to have a US distributor, Mission Workshop.
I've seen the Dromarti ones advertised as well, but don't know about their distribution.
Finally, Vittoria have the 1976, and seem to have a few US distributors, so they might be worth a look.