Is it possible to get a light that is too bright?

Question

This question is related to this recent question: Best ways to avoid getting hit by cars?

I have a 750 lumens front head light - it's bright! Some of my riding buddies say it is too bright for the streets as it blinds drivers. I disagree that it is truly blinding drivers and think that means it is just doing a better job of making me visible. Is it possible for a light to be too bright?

Another consideration for this is bike paths at night. Obviously a light doesn't need to be as bright on a bike path as a busy city street, but I do feel bad for the oncoming pedestrians that seem to be wincing when I approach. What is the proper etiquette for approaching in these situations. Turning off my light doesn't seem like a good idea. Also, I'm not really interested in jimmy rigging a lens-guard on my light, or purchasing a new one (Bike lights with beam cut-off to avoid dazzling drivers?).

As a side note, on a couple occasions, drivers at intersections have complimented my lights noting how easy it was to see me! I assume they are referring to my tail light, though.

Answer 1

Blinding road users will be the result of the following factors:

1. Total light output
2. Mirror design (how is the light shaped)
3. How you aimed your light

Most trail lights (and high output battery powered lights) use a mirror that casts the light in a symmetrical shape. This means light is cast up, down, left and right. Light cast above the horizon is what binds other road users. Light above the horizon is however great for trail riding as it lets you see overhanging branches and other impediments.

Car running lights (i.e. not high beams) are designed with a horizontal cut-off, where light does not shine above the horizon (actually a low percentage does, this called spill light). If the car light is aimed correctly, the the horizontal cut-off falls below oncoming road users line of vision. This is why you are typically not horribly blinded by oncoming cars, if they are a) using their running lights and b) have their lights aimed correctly. High beams do not have a horizontal cut-off, which is the primary reason you get blinded so badly.

Some bike lights (those that are approved for German roads) will have a mirror that has this sharp horizontal cut-off. They usually will usually be indicated by the some statement on StVZO compliance. Most dynamo lights (e.g., B & M, Schmidt, etc) will have this mirror design. There are also a few battery powered lights (e.g., some B & M models), but they are few and far between.

If you have a light with a symmetrical beam, you can lessen the blinding effect by pointing the light down (as suggested in @Batman's answer), however due to the symmetrical nature of the beam you will still blind road users more than if you had a light with a horizontal cutoff and was aimed correctly as there will still be more spill light above the horizon. This effect is also confounded by how narrowly or wide the symmetrical beam is focused. Wide flood lights will almost always blind, despite how much you aim them down, spot lights will blind less when pointed down.

Finally, total output does have some impact too, but it is also confounded with mirror design (e.g., high output with a horizontal cut-off may blind less than a low output symmetrical beam). What really determines whether or not you blind other users is the total amount of light shining above the horizon at their eyes.

In your case your 750 lumen lights are likely trail lights with a wide symmetrical beam. If you run them at full output you will likely blind others unless you severely aim it downwards.

Answer 2

Yes. Blinding oncoming traffic is certainly not in your best interest.

Operating multiple running lights like you see on a semi truck would be better than purchasing a high power front or rear facing light. A brighter rear red light, with a touch of blue for colorblindness like stoplights have, is good to see you from behind. A more powerful front facing light will generally not increase reaction time of oncoming traffic. Drivers will have to make out your shape to influence reactions. While the oncoming driver is blinded, you are reducing the time they have to ensure your safety.

To explain the point people are making here. Imagine a house at the end of a dark street. The home owners point the super bright lights towards oncoming traffic. Drivers are unlikely to make out the fact there is a house because of the high power lights and the property is suffering traffic damage. When the owner finally turns the lights around towards the home, blinding drivers was then stopped and the shape of home was made out at a much further distance allowing safe traffic to resume.

So definitely have your headlight. Just keep it dim enough where it is comfortable for you and everyone else to look directly into and aim it properly. If it blinds you, you bet it's going to blind traffic. Increasing lumens of an already good light will not increase your safety. It might, however, make you a target if they are airplane runway bright.

If your friends are saying it is too bright, you should pay attention to them.

Answer 3

Yeah, it's like overkill if you're riding on the street. I use a Busch & Muller lamp powered by a dynamo hub and it puts out plenty of light even when riding downhill on potholed roads. Also keep in mind lumens is only one factor in determining light quality. It's sort of like having a computer with a fast processor but not enough memory.

More important are the actual optics which disburse the light. A lot of lights - even really expensive ones - come with nothing more than a plain lens on them which means a lot of the light they put out isn't lighting up the ground in front of you. No point in having 750 lumens if most of it doesn't illuminate the ground in front of you. Peter White has some good examples of how important beam pattern is in determining how good a light is in the real world: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.asp

Another problem is where the light is mounted. A powerful light mounted up high (helmet or handlebars) can wash out the terrain making it tricky to spot a pothole. There's a reason why randonneurs - who often ride throughout the night - prefer to mount their lights lower (usually on the fork)

If people are wincing when you approach then your light is almost certainly aimed too high.

Answer 4

It's not just the number of lumens you have (*) -- its the distribution. You need to aim your light at the ground at an appropriate angle, not into the eyes of motorists. If you have something like a flood light like the coast guard uses, thats no good to aim -- bicycle-specific lights will be easier to aim in a proper manner.

If your light is aimed properly, pedestrians shouldn't really have a problem as well and you shouldn't be blinding cars. Look at the beamshots on @nhinkle's bikelightdb for seeing what appropriate aim looks like.

(*) You didn't mention the model of light. Just because it says x lumens doesn't mean you're getting x lumens. Also, in regards to distribution, there were some cheap Chinese lights (~10-20 USD) which had very high light output and were very cheap a few years ago (used big batteries and stuff). These were somewhat problematic as you couldn't aim the beam.

An aside: As a driver, I find these new blue-white LED lights on Audis and similar a bit distracting. So the color can be a bit distracting, but no bike light is nearly that intense anyway so the point is somewhat moot.

Answer 5

You can easily test if your light is too bright. Leave it on your bike and see how it looks.

Nowadays there are lots of too bright LED flashlights and headlamps the market that were not designed for cycling. Problem is they flood the light to very wide angle.

I would recommend a light made for cycling that has different modes for different use cases.

Answer 6

If your main worry is being seen by cars, then a superbright light isn't really the way forward. Besides being dazzling/blinding, a front light does very little for visibility from the sides and from behind, from which many (most?) collisions occur. A front light helps your visibility mainly when a car pulls out of or turns into a side road across your path while you approach. In my experience, in most of these cases the problem isn't that the driver didn't see me, but that they had difficulties judging my speed. Also, these are cases where I can mitigate some of the risk by reading the situation, observing the car (are they starting to move?) and being ready to brake.

A front light doesn't protect you against close overtakes, right hooks (UK: left hooks) and all the other frequent types of collisions.

If you are worried about visibility, then it's better to wear hi-vis and add reflectors or possibly several smaller, cheap lights on different parts of the bike. For the driver, one superbright light is just one point, whereas hi-vis, reflectors and several smaller lights will outline the shape and size of your bicycle and help drivers to judge distance and speed. I've also seen the suggestion to have a small light on the top tube that points at yourself to light up your own shape.

The only real use for a very bright light is a dark unlit path (without pedestrians) where you want to see where you're going. If you go along unlit paths a lot, I would invest in a light with a proper shaped beam, like the B&M models, that light up the path properly but don't dazzle other users.

I agree with everybody else that dazzling other users is a very bad idea, for many reasons (your own safety as well as etiquette).

Answer 7

A powerful light with no cut off optics is what is called "high beam". They do have the use cases but should be switched off in places where and when a car driver would do. A high beam of the car is not sweet either if some motorist decides a cyclist is not worth they effort to flip a switch.

My second light is without cut off but I switch it only after turning into fields and forests where it makes a huge difference. I also turn it off when I see there walkers or other cyclists but only if they carry they own lights or at least reflectors. Otherwise with StVZO only light remaining they may completely disappear from the sight.

Answer 8

I have a 750 lumens front head light - it's bright! Some of my riding buddies say it is too bright for the streets as it blinds drivers. I disagree that it is truly blinding drivers and think that means it is just doing a better job of making me visible. Is it possible for a light to be too bright?

It all depends on the beam pattern and alignment.

A light that's 750 lumens isn't bright. A car headlight bulb (H1) is around 1500 lumens. And this 1500 lumens is the outdated halogen bulb, not a LED headlight that's expected to be far more bright.

However, a light that's 750 lumens can and will blind oncoming traffic unless it:

• Has a perfect beam pattern
• Is perfectly aligned

In particular, a circularly symmetric beam pattern which is typical of many cheap lights will blind oncoming traffic if aligned in such a manner that you see the road in front of you.

I would advise avoiding all front lights unless they can be demonstrated to have German StVZO certification.

Besides, you don't need lumens to be visible. Most of the headlight is for illuminating the road in front of you. Being visible occurs from stray light, which is an infinitesimal amount of the total light. In fact, some bike lights have "daytime running lights" which are simply very dim LEDs that don't have a good beam pattern but rather make you visible from all directions.

Think about rear lights. The job of a rear light is to make you visible from the rear. How many lumens does a rear light have? Not many. So, to make you visible from front, you ain't gonna need many lumens.

A 750 lumen raw LED with no special optics could be too bright as the light comes from such a small area. A 750 lumen circularly symmetric beam pattern would definitely be too bright. But a 750 lumen well-designed beam pattern is excellent in illuminating the road in front of you without blinding oncoming traffic.

Answer 9

Most of the answers seem to focus on incoming traffic, but something can be said about following other people when you have a powerful light, so a little word on this.

• if you follow someone, your light will generate a shadow of this person, that you won't see, but they will. The eyes of the other rider will adjust to the brighter "scene" created by your light, and what is in their shadow will be less visible, especially if their light is not powerful enough to "compensate".
• if you follow a rider who have rear-view mirrors, a powerful light can blind them as well. It's in fact more a problem for them than cars, as cars quickly overtake, while if you ride in group, you'll stick with them by definition.

Answer 10

How to put this politely.... Disagree with you buddies all you like, but stop being a Selfish Cyclist who cares for no one but himself. Consider that your actions in running a light that bright on the road are the ones that make otherwise normal drivers cyclist hating psychopaths.

The law will not be on your side if your light is bright enough to be blinding or distracting to drivers. Unless it has proper optics behind it, 750 lumen on the road is too bright, your friends are right.

The end game of too many people running these lights at full brightness are laws banning anything other than standards approved lights, These approved lights won't cost $10 or $20 or $50 dollars, they will cost $500 or $1000.

If you want to be safe, add more lights and reflectors to your Helmet, arms, body, wheels....and High vis (white) clothing. Light from one point cannot be used to judge distance. The more points, the further apart, the more accurate and quickly the driver can determine the distance between you and him. Use flashing to attract attention but steady lights are needed to judge distance accurately and quickly.

I run 2x 1000 lumen lights off road (usually on mid setting), as soon as I hit the road, I turn them down to low (about 250 lumen). Its clear cars have no problem seeing me at those levels.