I don't have a whole lot of knowledge on this, but here goes. I have an old Murray Ultra mountain bike (prob. 15 yrs.+). It is a 15 speed bike, with a 5 speed freewheel. The whole Shimano system is the 515 which includes front and rear derailleurs.I really don't want to spend a lot of money on an upgrade, but an up grade of some sort is necessary because of simple wear and tear. All i'm asking is there a set,or equivalent where i can replace - at least the shifters to a more modern ones,and front derailleur without having to break the bank. At the very least the front derailleur and shifters.
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Having restored a number of old cheap bikes, I can tell you that the biggest problem is almost never the derailleurs/shifters. Usually these bikes have not been ridden much and have spent most of their time in a garage exposed to the elements. The biggest problems are rusted parts, poor lubrication, and horrifically bad tuning. Frequently, on a bike like this you're likely to find that it was never properly put together.
Here's a quick checklist of things to go over that can be fixed economically:
- Buff all rusted parts with steel wool, regrease all bushings on derailleurs & brake calipers/levers.
- Clean/lube chain & freewheel or replace with similar if worn out (unlikely).
- Replace cables and housings for brakes and shifters with inexpensive new ones (example) ~$10-20
- Replace brake pads ~$10
- Adjust brakes-- following readily available instructions
- Adjust shifters-- following readily available instructions
- disassemble/re-grease/re-pack hubs, headset, bottom bracket-- following readily available instructions
- True the wheel, tighten spokes if needed.
- Replace inner tubes, tires, rim-tape (If they're in bad shape) ~$30-50
If you have to replace the shifters or derailleurs, just try to find cheap replacements or used parts that are similar. You'll want to stick with 5-speed stuff, you aren't going to be upgrading to a 10 speed freewheel (they don't exist!).
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1You'll want to invest in a can of penetrating oil and a good deal of patience. Removing seized BB and headset locknuts has always resulted in much anguish and bloodshed for me.– WTHarperDec 7, 2012 at 20:57
Sorry for the answer to an old post, but I've done this exact upgrade recently on my rear.
The bike is a 60cm frame, so it was worth saving. Originally it had a 5 speed freewheel and 3 front chainrings. Wheel rims were alloy. The rear spokes were made of spaghetti so I was replacing one or two a month.
I scored a rear wheel with a freehub and QR skewer in it, which just fit inside the frame with some minor encouragement.
I bought a 7 speed cassette for $45 NZ, and had to fit 3.5mm of spacers because it was actually an 8 speed freehub. Spacers cost $5.
The old 5 speed indexed shifter was useless so I fitted a Shimano one with a lever that clicks to go up, and a push button to drop a gear. Works well and cost about $25 NZ I also fitted a new gear inner wire because I could, cost $6 NZ.
I soldered the end of the gear cable rather than using a crimp-on cap.
I reused all the old outers, except I trimmed 10mm off where some of them were a bit sharp exiting the frame mounts. All outers were lubed with Wolf's oil (a cheap and lightweight chinese oil.)
Definitely worth doing, and I have not yet broken a spoke in 3 months of riding.
You should find your rear derailereuyueyrueyruer will work fine over 7 or 8 gears, but do take the change to clean and lube it.
I did not do anything with the front chainrings other than a clean and paint, and tweak up the limit screws. They're still on a friction shifter, which is fine for my needs.