Upgrading wheels on a vintage Peugeot Frame

Question

OK so I have a Peugeot Galibier bike that consists of a Reynolds 301 steel frame.

A while back the original derailer gave up the ghost while riding, bending the rear-wheel spokes in the process. I was told it wasn't worth re-truing the rear wheel so I bought a cheapo Raleigh wheel from the LBS. I also bought a new 7-speed freewheel and Shimano derailer which I managed to install myself (using the original chain) and has been working great for about a year now.

The bike is nice to ride but I wouldn't mind upgrading the wheelset to a lighter and better set that would help with climbs and longer tours. I have in mind the Mavic Aksium.

I know this wheelset, along with many others use the modern dropout spacing of 130mm. I am pretty sure my bike is has 126mm spacing. Being a steel frame I am fairly confident i can just squeeze a 130mm wheel in there but my concern is the cassette size and chain.

I am under the impression that an 8-speed cassette uses a narrower chain. Would this work with my original crankset and friction shifters? i would rather stick with a 7-speed. Is it possible to find a semi-decent road 7-speed shimano cassette to fit on a Mavic Aksium and still use the slightly wider chain?

Any advice greatly appreciated....

Edit: I have found this: http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shimano-cs-hg-50-cassette-7-speed/aid:414549/?origin=pla&kw=&gclid=CIiLuvrpprQCFXHLtAod3jQAXQ

Would this fulfill my need?

Edit2: Some additional info:

My bike (not the best pic, sorry, it's just been taken up Boxhill): https://i.sstatic.net/3nrWw.jpg

(images not allowed yet? what?)

• Wheels are definitely 700c - I know this having previously replaced the rear wheel and buying new tyres & tubes.
• I would like to move away from the freewheel system to a freehub/cassette system. The idea is that I want to put a semi-decent set of road wheels on it. Mavic Aksium seems a good choice. This has a dropout spacing of 130mm. My bike has 126mm.
• I would like to avoid cold-setting (bending) my rear dropout if I can. Sheldon says it should be possible but there may be a few issues.
• Derailleur is modern so should hopefully take whatever chain is used.
• Friction shifters mean no worries about indexing.
• I would like to stick to a 7-speed cassette. Reasons: I doubt my shifters can do more than 7 (bike was originally a 6-speed); I assume this will help maintain chain compatibility between front chainrings and cassette. Am I wrong? Would the 7-speed cassette linked above need a spacer or would it just work out-the-box?

At the moment it seems like it should be OK. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and buy the wheelset and work to get it to fit....! Might help to borrow a friend's modern 700c 130mm hub wheel to see if that fits first though.

Answer 1

You're on the right track! My answer will be long, but I have a lot to say, so here we go!

• Firstly, lets deal with your dropout spacing - there are two solutions I have used on my old steel road bikes. The first is to buy a 126mm freewheel hub which can be built up with sleek rims and will take a high quality 6 or 7 speed freewheel. The two manufacturers that come to mind are Velo Orange and Paul Components - both are very high quality, but the VO hub costs $75 and the Paul hub costs $184. They both use sealed bearings and are both very nice to look at (with their high flanges and windows.) The benefits of using a 126mm hub is you avoid having to respace your frame, but the drawback is that you're wedded to freewheels which, if you change out gear clusters frequently, can be troublesome.

(Random note: try to not lose or break the rear quick release for a 126mm hub. It is a HUGE pain to find another one on short notice as most QRs have threading for a 130mm hub, minimum. Plus, the threads are rolled, not cut, so you can't just run a die over a skewer and make it shorter!)

The second option is to swage out your stays to accept 130mm or 135mm rear hubs. There is an excellent thread here which will give you more info. I successfully respaced my 90s' Bridgestone from 126mm to 135mm so that I can run mountain hubs with cassettes. You could just try to squeeze a 130mm hub into your frame, but in my experience it is hard to close your QR enough to force the dropouts comfortably flush against the hubs locknuts (and this isn't a good thing for wheel bearings, especially cartridge bearings! It would be more of an issue as the dropouts get splayed wider. More and more bikes are now made with dropout spacing at 132.5mm so that you can go up to 135mm or down to 130mm easily.)

• Being an older steel bike, it may use 27" wheels. 27" wheels have a BSD of 630mm, while 700c wheels have a BSD of 622mm. You will want to upgrade to 700c wheels because tire and rim availability makes it practically necessary (i.e. there aren't many mfgs of 27" rims/tires anymore!) The difference isn't important in terms of frame size and clearance, though you may run into problems with your brakes if they don't reach far enough to contact the smaller 700c rims. Brake reach is measured from the brake bolt hole diagonally down to the center of the rim braking surface. On cheap brakes with no vertical pad adjustment the pads would just eat into the tire's sidewall. Either long-reach brakes or a drop-bolt will solve this problem. (If you do replace your calipers, make sure you get nutted brakes or learn how to adapt a frame to accept recessed mounting bolts.)

Your bike has caliper brakes, but I want to add a bit of info regarding bikes with cantilevers as I've had to slog through this mess several times before. Since canti studs are brazed to a frame with a rim diameter in mind, switching from 27" to 700c rims will pull the braking surface down by 4mm which, when using brakes with limited adjustability, means you have to swap in some with lots of vertical and horizontal pad movement. Since canti stud placement has only recently been standardized, this makes upgrading old touring frames a crapshoot as brake availability is limited. One measure I took on a troublesome 1981 Miyata 1000 was to run caliper brakes and leave the canti studs alone altogether. (Another issue with upgrading wheels on an older canti-brake bike is the distance between the front posts. See this thread for more info.) ((A more final approach would be to braze on a new set of cantilever studs, but this is hardly a novice project.))

• Finally, in choosing drivetrain parts that will be consistent and compatible, I don't think you'll have an issue. Friction shifters are compatible with (mostly) everything (good choice.) As far as chain width goes, with a new Shimano-compatible hub you'll be able to fit an 8 or 9 speed cassette - a 7 speed cassette will likely need a spacer to fit properly.

Your rear derailleur will have to be reasonably modern, but I haven't had any issues with running 9 speeds under an 8 speed derailleur. In general, it is easier to use 9 speed hardware on 7 or 8 speed cassettes than to use 7 speed hardware on 9 speed cassettes. Ideally, chain width should correspond with your rear cassette (ideally.) The only concern would be if the crankset and chainrings were designed to run 5 or 6 speeds originally. If the distance between the chainrings is too great the chain can slip between them, but I've never seen it happen, even on franken-bikes with mismatched drivetrains. Here is a great Sheldon Brown article about gearing.

Hope this helps!

Answer 2

I realized this is five years old for OP, but since this comes up in Google searches, additional info:

I've cold set two old steel frames and made them 1x10s, including a Peugeot PX-10 that is now my daily rider (other is a Schwinn Super Sport). I followed the Sheldon instructions on these two pages to cold set the frames.[1][2] I've got Mavic Askium on one, Kysrium elite on the other. I kept the existing brakes, Mafac Racers, which have enough reach to go from 27" to 700c.

You may be limited in how low your gearing can be by your front ring.[3] The PX-10, for example, has pretty Stronglight cranks that only can handle rings down to 38 teeth. Rather than replace them (and the bottom bracket), to get lower gearing I put a 42t Wolf Tooth big cog (there's also one by OneUp) on the rear casette that makes the gearing pretty reasonable.

10-speed chain on old Peugeot/Stronglight front chainring has been fine.

I thought chainline might be an issue, but it hasn't for either of mine. The front ring with the Peugeot cranks is more or less around the middle of the 10 speed cassette, and I think you get a fair amount of tolerance because of the derailers.

The derailleur hanger is often a difficult point. Someone else had cut a notch into the Peugeot's to create a b-screw stop, which works fine. For the Schwinn I cut and bent a washer that gets bolted under the derailer and gives a place for it.

I'm pretty sure I did try the original vintage shifters, but I did not keep them. It's been a while but I think I either found that the didn't have enough range, or that they were just too hard to shift smoothly. The Dia-Compe silver shifters work well with SRAM 10 speed mountain derailers (I have one X7, one GX, they seem about the same). You'll need to keep the front derailer on to prevent chain drops, even with a clutched rear derailer; no cable or shifter for 1x10, just adjust the high screw to get the right position.

[1] https://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html

[2] https://www.sheldonbrown.com/forkend-alignment.html (using "improvised tools" method)

[3] Measure BCD and see "smallest ring" column on https://www.sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-bcd.html