I'm considering getting a steel frame to upgrade from my aluminum xc bike. As it will be my first steel frame I'd like to understand if there is more after ride care required than my current bike. Usually after rides now I generally just wipe off the staunchions and wash only on the weekends. If I had a steel frame that had been rust proofed would I have to do much different?

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    Why would you think it takes more care? Just don't leave it out in the rain for weeks at a time and it will be fine. A good steel framed will outlast any other material -- rust is honestly a non-problem. Commented Mar 5, 2013 at 12:23
  • Don't paint over any drain holes, or it can rust through from the inside in thirty years or so: sheldonbrown.com/paint-prep.html (Scroll down to photo of John's Raleigh Twenty frame. His web page about 25 years with that bike says he painted it in 1979, and didn't mention rust in 2005.)
    – armb
    Commented Mar 5, 2013 at 13:59
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    Like Daniel says. I've got one that's 26 years old now and hasn't been taken care of at all. Also was really cheap. No issues... :-) Although, I sure don't consider steel an upgrade from Al. Quite the opposite... Commented Mar 7, 2013 at 16:38
  • @Brian: Have you ever ridden a decent quality steel frame?
    – mattnz
    Commented Mar 8, 2013 at 5:37
  • I've ridden steel, aluminum, and carbon fiber of all different quality levels. Al is by far my favorite to ride on, with steel being a distant second. CF is a very close third (I appreciate the weight savings, but don't like the feel). Commented Mar 8, 2013 at 13:54

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I ride a steel frame fixed gear nearly daily in tropical conditions, and near the sea. It really puts the frame through its paces. As far as my experience goes, there's nothing that can be totally rust proofed.

Using any sort of metal lubricant on the inside of the tubes will certainly help prolong the life of your steel frame. Some may insist on using the tried and proven J.P. Weigle's Frame Saver. The seat tube and bottom bracket are where rust forms the quickest, as moisture gets to them easily. Always remember to lube them, especially after wet rides, as the lubricants can be easily washed away by tire spray and water seeping between the crevices.

Apart from the inside of the frame, do note that the quality of the paint/clear coat has a great impact on how "rust-proof" the frame is. If the paintwork is chipped, which can easily happen if you ride often, there's a chance that the frame will start rusting from the chip.

Do care for your steel frame as you did with the aluminum frame. It may be prone to more visible wear and tear, but as long as you take care of it, it's bound to last a lifetime. Steel frames are durable and great to ride on. It's worth the time to take care and maintain them.

As an extra precaution, I remove almost all the components, except for the crankset/bottom bracket, and give them a thorough wipe down and re-lube once every two months.


I agree with Snikrs and also ride a steel fixed gear frame in often wet UK. I recently purchased my current frame (upgrade the old one didn't rust through) and before using it sprayed the inside of the frame with Waxoyl but if I had been able to find it in the UK would probably have used J.P. Weigle's Frame Saver which many people swear by.

What I don't like about Waxoyl is it remains quite slimy, I'm not sure if it would be good in a hot climate but it would be better than nothing. You have to be careful in the seat post area and clean it out to allow the frame to grip the seat post. But if done with care its not an issue. I usually just wipe the seat post with an old greasy rag to prevent it sticking in the frame. It is also important to move the seat post every now and again (3 months maybe) as a stuck seat post can be really hard to remove.

The other precautions I took before riding the frame were:

  1. Stuck a large rubber bung in the base of the steerer column to prevent water entering here (even though I have mudguards). I had to shorten the bung slightly to prevent it showing.
  2. My saddle clamp encloses the top of the seat post if this wasn't the case I would fill this in a similar manner. This is something I have done on all my frames for the last 20 or more years.
  3. Filled every bolt hole with a bolt ensuring ample waterproof grease was applied to the threads. Teflon grease is not great at this I find it gets washed out easily. Marine grease is much better, I use Unipart Marine but there are loads available; they are all considerably cheaper than any proprietary bike grease and I use mine for most applications (hubs, headsets etc) and it last much longer between applications (I commute every day in all weathers).
  4. Filled all drain holes as described in step 3 of the Bike Radar winter proofing article. For my frame match sticks were way too small. I used chopsticks, I found snipping approx 3-5 mm off the end and then cutting 5 mm of chopstick was a perfect fit and pretty flush to the frame. Before pushing into the hole I coated in the wood in clear nail varnish (not mine) and then again over the top and overlapping slightly onto the frame once inserted. This varnish prevents water absorption and helps create a seal without using glue.
  5. Finally before fitting the bottom bracket I coated the threads of the shell and its interior with the waterproof grease even though already sprayed with Waxoyl.

The one step I didn't follow in the Bike Radar article was drilling a hole in the bottom bracket shell. I couldn't bring myself to put a hole in my nice new frame even though its not a flash one. I suspect plugging all holes before ever ridding may negate the need for this but I will inspect the bottom bracket shell after a few very wet rides. If you do drill a hole remember this will open the frame up to rust so paint it or varnish it.

Finally keep on to of scratches. I usually apply clear nail varnish as you can never get a perfect colour matched paint.

I hope this helps.

  • Ceeway in the UK is about the only place outside of the US where you can get Weigle's frame saver (although their website looks as if they must have gone out of business sometime early in the nineties :-) ): ceeway.com/Framesaver.htm
    – bhell
    Commented Mar 7, 2013 at 15:31

If you're going to be riding in particularly corrosive environments (the beach, salt coverered winter roads, etc.) I recommend doing something to protect the inside of your frame. I spray some T-9 in the frame of my Surly every couple of rides in the winter. I've also heard good things about J.P. Weigle Frame Saver. http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/tools/cycling-tools/chain-lubricant/product/review-jp-weigle-frame-saver-10220

  • The bottom bracket area is where moisture that somehow gets into the frame settles, plus it's down near the road so that it will pick up tire spray. It's not a bad idea to coat the inside with grease occasionally. (This would be true of an AL bike as well, BTW.) Commented Mar 6, 2013 at 3:56
  • Even more so with aluminum as it actually expands with corrosion!
    – WTHarper
    Commented Mar 6, 2013 at 14:13

(I am not talking about the things you buy from department store with two wheels for $100.)

There is a mis-perception boarding on conspiracy that steel rusts and aluminum doesn't. Aluminum bikes rust about as much as steel. This is mostly propagated by people who have never owned a decent steel bike and don't know what they are talking about... Quality steel does not rust significantly, otherwise how do you think all those bridges and ships don't fall apart after a few years. Do you avoid buying a car made from steel because it rusts? When did you last see an aluminum car (Land Rover - but plenty of them rusted their way to the wreckers yard)

I have a 1992 steel MTB that lives outside. Apart from the old surface rust where the frame is scratched, there is no rust on it - except the chain, nut and bolts, cluster, seat rails..... i.e. all the accessories that an aluminum frame has that are made from steel - hence my assertion that Aluminum bikes rust about as much as steel... The accessories do on both, and the frame doesn't on both.

Have you seen what happens to aluminum when it corrodes, which it does.... I would rather ride a old rusty steel frame than an old, poorly maintained aluminum frame.....

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