I recently upgraded my wife’s bike with a Shimano XT triple crankset. The number of teeth is 44.32.22t. However, the middle chainring on the recent XT crankset is carbon-reinforced, and I’d prefer not to trust in carbon for our primary cycling activity, which is long-haul touring.

From an earlier bike build, I happen to have a never-used Shimano middle chainring lying around, made purely from metal, but this one has 36 teeth. Is it possible to replace the 32-tooth ring with a 36-tooth one, keeping the crankset's other teeth (44 and 22) the same? Or do triple cranksets require some kind of precise ratio between the number of teeth on the three rings?

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Assuming that the bolt patterns match:

This will work, as long as your new 36T ring has the right kind of pins and ramps to assist shifting the chain. However, the shape and pattern of those pins and ramps is quite mysterious, and it's not guaranteed that you'll get good shifting performance from the 22T ring to the 36T ring.

The fact that both the crankset and the 36T ring are Shimano probably helps.

Since you already have all the parts on hand, it's very easy to try it out. If for some reason the 14T difference prevents shifting, you'll find out within the first minute of your test ride. If it works at that point, it will continue to work.

The only other thing I can think of that might cause a problem is releasing the chain from the middle ring when you shift to the big ring. I've seen some chainrings that had 2 teeth that were shorter than the others, to help release the chain at the right point, relative to the location of the ramps and pins on the larger ring. But that was on a SRAM 2x10 chainset, so you probably don't have this problem. If you do have those 2 shorter teeth, then the alignment between the chainrings is important. If you install the 36T ring and it doesn't shift right, try removing it, rotating it 90 degrees, and reinstalling it.

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    The bolt circle diameter is the important thing.
    – andy256
    Jun 2, 2015 at 0:40

Your front derailleur is designed for a specific number of chainrings (double or triple) and specific chainring size gaps.

If you look at the data sheet for your front derailleur (see this one for example), you will see an entry that says "maximum tooth difference", which is big ring - small ring. You will also see "min. difference between top and intermediate", which is big ring - middle ring.

You can try it out on your own, even if its out of the spec sheet and see if it works (provided the chainring fits on the crankset, i.e. the bolt pattern matches)

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    Thanks for the tip. The front derailleur in question is a Shimano FD-M591. The data sheet for it says that “Min. difference between top and intermediate” is 12T, so I guess that means that it is not possible to put a 36T middle chainring on this chainset if the biggest chainring is 44T. Jun 2, 2015 at 4:34
  • It means you're YMMV trying 44-36-22 in this case (since you're out of the spec range Shimano specified), but my guess is it probably won't work well.
    – Batman
    Jun 2, 2015 at 9:39

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