I bought a Motobecane Mirage S recently from bikesdirect.com

I took the following advice from a bikes forum:

Plan on changing the seat, pedals, and possibly the tires. The seat will make your butt feel and look like a loose meat sandwich, which will be the outcome on just about any road-bike you buy for under  $1000.00.

Because I am on a budget I bought a Selle Italia Flite seat on craigslist for only 30.00

I see reviews saying how comfortable this seat is even on long rides but when I feel it in my hands it feels significantly harder than the seat that came with my Motobecane Mirage S. I was hoping someone could shed some light on this counter-intuitive phenomena regarding saddle hardness and whether it will actually perform better on long rides and more importantly, why that would be?

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    Too much padding just presses on areas where you don’t want pressure. You are supposed to sit on your sit bones. Soft saddles might seems comfortable at first but after some time you suddenly have body parts going numb (due to pressure on blood vessels) and so on. There are pure carbon saddles with no padding at all and people riding for hours on them.
    – Michael
    Commented Jul 29, 2015 at 7:27
  • @Michael I found that smp saddles are "soft" and dont press on my parts so fart it is only one that didnit gived me numb after long rides. But they are slightly on expensive side.
    – kifli
    Commented Aug 12, 2016 at 12:51

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This article, The Four and a Half Rules of Road Saddles, from Cervélo Cycles has been really helpful to me when pondering saddles. I think the key points are:

  • The saddle needs to be wide enough to support your "sit bones" but not so wide that it chafes on your thighs.

  • The saddle has to be flat enough that the part between your sit bones doesn't press up on your soft tissues.

  • If the saddle is padded, make sure the padding doesn't defeat the flatness.

  • A cutout might help.

Also make sure that you've got the saddle adjusted well. Make sure the height is high enough, but not too high (I start too high and work down, because it seems easier to recognize too high than too low). Also make sure that the saddle is level – nose up can make the pressure worse, nose down and you may feel like you're slipping off the front to the saddle.

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    The seat needs to be wide enough, but not too wide. Too wide and the friction on your thighs is a problem. And of course, good bike shorts help a lot. Commented Jul 29, 2015 at 0:32
  • Unfortunately, the article you suggest is now broken (none of the images load).
    – Flimzy
    Commented May 7, 2016 at 14:26
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    And the 4-and-a-halfth rule is * Try both a T shaped Saddle and a Pear shaped saddle.
    – Criggie
    Commented Aug 12, 2016 at 9:34

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