I have a 2013 Giant Defy 4 and a new Montague Urban(UK)/Crosstown(USA) folding 21" 700c.

I'd like to make the Montague better for the occasional uphill commute home I do when I don't have access to a boot and a passenger seat (hence the folding bike) but I don't want it to be too appealing to thieves (however I don't mind making things appear cheap with mud and sandpaper!). It's built as an urban bike so the seat is comfort and the riser bars are for an upright position (so it's not great for a bent over wind resistant riding position). It only comes 7 speed with no front mech. Making the bike lighter would be lovely when I'm carrying myself and my gym stuff home, cursing at the geographically almost-guaranteed head-wind.

To that end I want to fit parts that would improve my ride (drop bars, better seat and anything else), but I'd rather buy good stuff for my Giant and then replace the not very good Montague stuff with the now surplus Giant stuff. (That's assuming the Giant hardware is indeed better.)

I can't find any useful info on things like the bars, which just say "Giant Sport 26.0" and which I can't find these on the Giant site. Roughly, the Giant is 10.7 kg and the Montague is 12.3 kg. Plus, without (what I consider to be) a reliable pannier rack option I carry the weight on my back. I'm fairly heavy and my road surface is fairly rubbish, I think I'm right to make weight loss a target for the bike ;)

Short of weighing the deconstructed bikes for parts, how do I proceed with this project?

A couple of things to note: I've already made the Montague look like crap by using permanent marker on the text, muddy water and strategically placed plastic carrier bags so it won't be too enticing to thieves - new fancy kit on it would make it a target; also I've got a couple of non-stock parts on my Giant: Shimano R540 SPD SL pedals and a Nukeproof Plasma Speed saddle.

Replacing a groupset in step purchases whilst this is a good post and will help if I come to adding a front mech or increasing the cassette, I am not primarily interested in replacing the gears - 7 speed is OK for the most part - I would probably only change it if the bars, stem and seat and drop levers if I change to drop bars. I'm more interested in making as big weight savings as possible and getting a more comfortable setup for reducing wind resistance etc. Though I'm sure once that's done I'll be wanting different gears!

  • We've already had several questions on switching from straight to drop bars. Generally, most bikes don't do well with the geometry change. As for upgrading things, I wouldn't bother with anything other than a new seat if needed. Cutting significant weight would mean getting a different folder.
    – Batman
    Aug 20, 2015 at 18:23
  • @Batman, so you're saying I should investigate what? The frame geometry and top tube length? As for weight, what are the parts of a bike that would yield the biggest change? Wheels?
    – ja_him
    Aug 21, 2015 at 7:31
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    possible duplicate of Replacing a groupset in step purchases
    – Nuі
    Aug 22, 2015 at 23:55
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    – jimchristie
    Aug 25, 2015 at 0:01

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Really, the only thing you can do is investigate each individual part as you go along.

With drivetrain parts you'll have to investigate how well they work with other drivetrain parts. E.g., if you change the derailleur, does it work with the shifters? Is the cassette compatible with the derailleurs? Etc. Try searching the site for stuff like drivetrain compatibility, shifter compatibility, and derailleur compatibility. The venerable Sheldon Brown is also a magnificent source for determining how things work together.

With fairly static parts like your handlebars and seatpost, it will likely come down to simply measuring to see if they match. You'll probably need to do so with calipers as these things can sometimes vary by a millimeter, or perhaps even less. However, Batman mentions in the comments, you may run into comfort issues. Whether these issues are within your range of tolerance will depend on your bike's setup, your body proportions, flexibility, and the individual parts that you're swapping.

  • Thanks @jimirings - I might have to make some time this weekend to weigh and measure. What are the biggest weight savings, typically? I'd imagine that stem, seatpost, seat and wheels ... and handlebars and OK I think I might be answering my own question here!
    – ja_him
    Aug 25, 2015 at 7:55
  • Weight savings would depend entirely on what parts you have and what parts you're replacing them with. There's no way to estimate that without direct comparison. If you find answers (and questions, for that matter) on this site helpful, it's customary to upvote or accept them so that others know that the answer was helpful. Check out our tour for more info. Also, it's perfectly acceptable to answer your own question.
    – jimchristie
    Aug 25, 2015 at 11:06

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