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In broad terms, I'm wondering if it is possible to repair a high quality lugged carbon frame, say a Colnago C60, that has been cracked in the top and/or down-tube.

Normally once a carbon frame has a crack or chip it is considered unsafe to ride and it will usually get scrapped. However, it seems like if one were to crack a lugged frame, it might be possible to take it apart and replace only the tube that has cracked.

Is this possible and if so what does the overall process look like?

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  • Search in your location - there are companies that repair carbon damage. Getting a quote, should cost nothing but your time, and the repairs are supposed to be "stronger than original"
    – Criggie
    Mar 19, 2016 at 7:59
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    The C60 can be repaired by Colnago. They exchange damaged tubes.
    – Carel
    Mar 19, 2016 at 11:04

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It should be possible to repair the frame, the big question is whether you'll be able to find a replacement tube or will you have to make it yourself. Making the tube isn't hard, it's just messy.

The repair will involve cutting out the damaged tube, working out what else (if anything) is damaged, and paying careful attention to the other tubes. Then once you're clear on exactly what needs to be done (and that the person paying for it is happy with the price) you start. This may end up cutting an undamaged tube so that the new tubes can be fitted, depending on just how rigid the frame is (it should not be that rigid unless you have a very short tube)

  1. ideally dissolve the glue that holds the tube ends into the frame and pull the two tube ends out.
  2. if not, cut/grind/scrape them out
  3. clean up the lugs
  4. insert new tube dry and make sure the frame is exactly true in the jig
  5. pre-coat the lugs with glue
  6. coat the tube ends with glue
  7. insert new tube
  8. carefully make one last check that everything is true and correct
  9. wait :)

I would be tempted to use a slightly extra thick tube to get a little more strength, since you broke the last one. But that's a path that can lead you to completely rebuilding the frame.

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  • To get the angles, you'd have to replace all frame tubes at once, assuming its possible to undo the epoxy and remove it from the lugs. I can't see how one could get the length and angle to change a top tube, unless it goes in in two pieces and is then bonded in the middle with a sloped as well.
    – Criggie
    Mar 20, 2016 at 1:16
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Colnago's EPS and C59 are both lugged carbon fibre bike frames dating from the 90s, when CF was a new material. They had a reputation for unreliability (I don't know if that was the construction, or something else.)

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Whether you'll find one new, or used and in good condition is a completely different problem. The lugs and the tubes are fastened together with epoxy, which makes swapping out a tube difficult.

Also, the stress point on the CF tube is now where it enters the lug. The modern monocoque construction of a CF frame does away with those stress focus points, so "should" last longer. Plus popping the frames out of a mold in one piece is a lot less work than assembling and epoxying tubes and lugs.

Answer: No you can't just change tubes, because the tubes are epoxied into the lugs, and you couldn't change just one because the angles of the lugs would require all joints loosened to slide apart.

Homework: OP should consult with a local carbon frame maker/repairer who can give a definitive answer.

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    I'm not really questioning whether they exist or not, or whether I can find one new or used, more so if they can be taken apart and repaired and what that process look like.
    – ebrohman
    Mar 19, 2016 at 14:31
  • @ebrohman clarified.
    – Criggie
    Mar 20, 2016 at 1:13

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