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Would it be possible to replace a 46/34 compact crankset to an even more compact 42/26 (SPA CYCLES TD-2)? The bike is a Specialized Awol Elite, which uses a Tiagra groupset (except the crank which seems to be no-brand). Links below.

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b0s109p3383 https://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/bikes/adventure/awol-elite/106555

Haven't gotten the bike yet, but I probably will if I can get the gearing down in order to do some loaded touring in hilly places. With 42/26 + 11/34 it should have a range of 21"-106", but I'm pretty new to all this gear calculation thing and I have no idea if that kind of crank is suitable for the AWOL. I know that I would need to replace the bottom bracket, but is there anything else to keep in mind / is it a bad idea?

One thing I noticed for the crank is "Recommended bottom bracket length 115mm", however Shimano's Hollowtech bb's range mostly in the 70mm range...

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    With a 46/34 and a big rear cassette, you should have a pretty wide range. Are you sure your load+hills are high enough that you really want an even lower gearing? – Batman Apr 30 '16 at 4:51
  • Yep, I know it's a pretty good range, but the minimum I get is a 27". I usually go camping / unsupported and often end up off-road with 10-15% gradients, and by experience I know that I would have to end up walking the rougher ones. – Turrino Apr 30 '16 at 11:34
  • I have a AWOL Elite and I am looking to lower the gearing for touring as well. The stock gearing is great for commuting and riding around town but not low enough for me for touring. If you find a solution, can you post it here? Thanks – user28518 Aug 5 '16 at 5:08
  • The proposed changes make it mandatory to spray over all occurrences of "Elite" on the frame. 26 front + 34 back = three-year-old standing on the pedals of his tricycle will outclimb you. – Kaz Aug 5 '16 at 5:15
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First, regarding the crank's bottom bracket recommendation: The crank uses a square taper bottom bracket spindle, and would not be compatible with the Shimano Hollowtech II BB that may be currently in the bike. You could swap out to a BB-UN50 or BB-UN70 from Shimano in a 68x115mm size, to fix the crank/BB compatibility issue if that is the case.

That leaves the tooth difference question. The first thing to check is the tooth capacity of the front derailleur. The bike in question uses a Shimano Tiagra, 10-speed front derailleur.

Shimano has a Product Info website which provides specifications and compatibility information by part type, model number and product series.

The relevant information for a Tiagra Double Front Derailleur is listed under the part number (which is engraved on the back of the actual front derailleur), in this case, the FD-4600 or FD-4700.

The information we are looking for is the maximum tooth difference between large and small chain rings. This is identified as maximum capacity.

As you can see in the image below, the maximum capacity (tooth differential) is 16 teeth.

That means that a 42/26 should just be in the range of use for a Tiagra 10 speed double front derailleur.

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The next category to look at is the top gear teeth, which is the recommended range of tooth count for your large ring.

As you can see in the image below, the recommended top gear tooth count for this derailleur is between 46 and 52 teeth. Now, you may be able to set it up and get it to work, but perhaps not as well as it should, or perhaps not at all.

I would conclude that this would require more changes to be compatible with a chain ring set that small. Perhaps a front derailleur, BB and crank in all.

Or you may not be able to place a front derailleur low enough on the frame to be functional off a 26 tooth ring (for a double). I would think it could be worked out, but probably not with these parts.

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    Thank you for the detailed answer! I had overlooked the Shimano website, now I know where to look. Sounds like it won't be as easy as I'd hoped, so I'll see if I can find someone who's done it, or possibly go for a 46-30, which seems to be within the limits of the specs, and if I still need more range, maybe poke around with a Wolftooth roadlink and a larger cassette. Will try to update this later, but right now I still have to wait for my cyclescheme to be processed :( – Turrino Apr 30 '16 at 11:24
  • Glad to be of help. – zenbike Apr 30 '16 at 16:08

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