After switching the fork on a road bike I noticed that the brake pads could no longer be adjusted to sit properly on the rim but would sit too low even in the topmost position. I encountered the problem with Shimano 105-style brakes. Obviously brakes exist with short and long arms and I had to switch to brakes that have shorter arms. Are there any standards for the arm length or, equivalently, the distance between the bolt holding the brake and the rim?
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What wheel size are you running ? Theres about 6mm difference between 700 wheels and the old 27" size. By changing the fork you may have picked one with a different bend/rake/trail/follow, so the wheel axle sits further forward/backward from where it was. This could alter brake pad placement too. As for brake offset/depth, that's a function of how far around the tyre the brake caliper has to reach.– Criggie ♦Commented Dec 26, 2016 at 2:32
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Also, welcome to SE Bicycles - have a browse through the Tour which is in the Help menu.– Criggie ♦Commented Dec 26, 2016 at 2:33
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This was on a modern bike with 700 wheels.– Christian LindigCommented Dec 26, 2016 at 9:28
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Reach is the distance between the center of the brake bolt and the middle of the brake shoe. Generally, brakes are sold with a range of reach (usually written on the brake; this is because you have some adjustment with the pads), like 40 mm - 50 mm or whatever and are termed as short, normal, long and extra long reach (but the actual reach lengths vary based on the manufacturer and time period of manufacturing, so you need to look at the range of reach for the particular brake you're using; for example, a long reach brake today may have been a normal reach brake in the 1960s). People also use drop bolts to use shorter reach brakes when longer reach brakes are required.
Most brakes are probably 40-50 mm ish reach these days, though you need to check the particular brakes you're working with.
To measure the reach needed, take the wheel (ideally, without a tire), and remove the existing brake. Then, use a ruler to measure from the center of the brake hole to the center of where the brake should hit the outside of the rim. If this is 45 mm, pick a brake such that the reach range contains 45 mm (e.g. a 40-50 mm reach brake).
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1The link above how to measure a brake's reach and the required reach given a fork/rim combination is very useful. Commented Dec 26, 2016 at 10:56
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Sounds to me like your original brake calipers are not suitable for your new front fork, being a bit too long.
There are not specific standard lengths, but there are standardish sizes spanned where the brake reaches 32-44mm or 40-50mm. You probably want one size shorter than you have now
Possible solutions: * You could possibly file the brake calipers, but depends how much meat you'd have to remove. Not recommended, and not at all if its more than a millimetre or two to remove.
Offset brake pads - these hold the pad a few mm above or below the mounting. Downside, rotational forces tend to push these around. Poor patch to fix a problem
Offset the brake mount on the fork - again not a great idea. Brakes are important. However some people have used droppers to mount 650 wheels on a 700 fork, where "longer brakes" just aren't going to work.
Buy a new/replacement front caliper. This is what I'd do. I upgraded some single pivots to cheap dual pivots for a cost of $40 for both. Only Tektro level though, but still better and lighter than the original RSX single pivots.
Do please let us know what you end up doing, and what works for you.
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2This was on a Trek Alex 2011 after the (carbon) fork had to be replaced because it was damaged during shipping. It was replaced by a bike shop with a Trek fork but, as I had said, the brake would not work properly any longer. I replaced it with an old Shimano RSX 100 brake with shorter reach. Now I was wondering what designs are common - hence the question. Commented Dec 26, 2016 at 10:49