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At one point I had to replace my rear V-brake mech (at the wheel). At first I tried a Shimano BR-M432, recommended by and bought from my LBS. I brought it home to do it myself, but the more I looked at it the more it seemed like a bad fit. In two significant ways, the Shimanos were shaped differently (see pictures) from the generic brakes that came with the bike.

The mechanic at the LBS insisted he could make them fit, but in the end I returned them. Instead, I bought something off eBay that looked like it had the same design as the one I was replacing. That's what I'm using now.

So my question is, was the mechanic at the LBS right? Would the BR-M432's have worked?

(The reason I'm asking is my current brakes really could be better so I'm looking at this again. I assume the Shimanos were more like a standard than the generic ones I have, meaning fit at the mounting interface will likely be a problem with any good replacement brakes?)

In the pictures you can see two potential problems, 1) the return spring mounting pin is shorter and 2) the brake body doesn't slide all the way onto the mounting post on the frame. Together, these mean the return spring pin penetration is about 3mm or 4mm less with the new brake. On top of that, the new one's return spring pin is conical on the end, not squared off, giving it even more wiggle room.

return spring pin comparison, new vs. old brake mountain post opening depth comparison, new vs. old brake old brake installed on mounting post (no gap) new brake installed on mounting post, with gap bare brake mounting post

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    Yeah, short of a machine shop those brakes won't fit. You can make things a hair better by installing a spacer to take up the slop, but you'll still have the pin problem. – Daniel R Hicks May 6 '17 at 11:42
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    The pin is only for the return spring so doesn't take much force. That part should be fine. Even if the pin fails completely on one side the brakes only drag lightly and can still be used. The mounting bolt is another matter. On my own bike I'd look into alternative bolts or modifying parts, probably starting from cheap shimano parts, even spares from a scrap bike – Chris H May 6 '17 at 13:01
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    You should be able to make them fit by removing your brake mounting posts and installing posts that match your new brakes. – mikes May 6 '17 at 13:49
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    A lot of brakes mount this way -- I've been using brakes with a gap like this for years without any adverse effects. – Batman May 8 '17 at 13:05
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    Yeah, what @Criggie said! This post has more clear photos with useful, accurate descriptions than any I think I've ever seen anywhere on SE! If we could just get compton to travel the world taking pictures and writing up posts for people, the world would be a better place! – FreeMan May 10 '17 at 19:38
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In my experience, the gap there isn't a problem. Usually those "long" spring ends go all the way through the brake mounting plate and a bit out the back side anyways, so there isn't an issue if they are a little shorter. As for the gap on the v-brake mount on the bike, too short is an issue. Too long usually isn't. As Criggie says in the comments, fantastic job on the photos showing the exact issue. But as long as the Shimano brake's spring end goes through the hole in the mounting plate(and doesn't back out of it) and the brake moves freely with the mounting screw tightened, you should be good to go.

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