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A recent trend toward wider tires (cf Heine, "Performance of Tires") also led to wider rims and a closer match of rim and tire widths.

In the past it was considered that tires need to be considerably wider than their rims. For example, Sheldon Brown requires at least 40 mm nominal width in a 23 mm rim (measure between inner flanges). ISO 4210 (cf Mavic) requires at least a 37 mm tire on the same rim.

As a recent example, my new bike (2017 Merida CX 600) came with a 700x23C rim and 32-622 tires. This choice of the manufacturer suggests it is a safe combination. The rim lacks hooks though (see below), which might make it comparable to a narrower specification.

New developments, such as tubeless, hook-less rims, and tubeless tire beads made this question more complicated then it was a decade ago. This merritts to discuss this beyond Brown and ISO 4210.

What is the smallest width a tubeless tire may have to be mounted on a rim of given width?

photo of the rim

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  • So, what is your actual question? Commented Aug 19, 2017 at 13:08
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    @Paparazzi Sheldon has ridiculous values. When Sheldon lived people thought narow tires have lower rolling resistance. But please go ahead and edit it to narrow it down while keeping it abstract enough to be of any use.
    – gschenk
    Commented Aug 19, 2017 at 13:37
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    No thanks. I will hold with my vote to close.
    – paparazzo
    Commented Aug 19, 2017 at 13:40
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    @Paparazzi that is fair enough. However, should like to point out that your comment on a question that could be rephrased "SB is not right, what to do?" is "listen to SB".
    – gschenk
    Commented Aug 19, 2017 at 13:52
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    @Batman But the question is about putting narrow tyres on wide rims! Commented Jan 30, 2019 at 10:51

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I was googling a similar thing and stumbled across both this question, and an interesting article from mavic: https://engineerstalk.mavic.com/en/the-right-tyre-width-on-the-right-rim-width/

Towards the bottom of the article are some interesting tables for not only tyre size vs rim width (internal) but also pressure: enter image description here enter image description here

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  • I read the very same article yesterday!
    – gschenk
    Commented Jan 30, 2019 at 13:12
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    I was glad I found it, i'm considering getting some new wheels with 19mm internal, but not sure my frame (a 2011 Scott Addict) will give clearance for anything bigger than a 23c on a wide rim. The table makes me confident I'll be able to run a 23mm GP4000SII (which come up a little oversized) without problems.
    – Andy P
    Commented Jan 30, 2019 at 13:29
  • @DavidW pointed out Mavic's table is only for tubeless rims.
    – gschenk
    Commented Oct 10, 2019 at 18:08
  • Since the question was asking for a tubeless ready rim in the first place, I clarified the question accordingly.
    – gschenk
    Commented Oct 12, 2019 at 21:38
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In the comments of the Mavic article linked in AndyP's answer two relevant replies were posted by Mavic's product manager, Maxime Brunand:

The tube makes most of the job on holding the tyre on the rim. Once it’s gone (tubeless system), all the forces go on the tyre beads. Which then needs to be very carefully designed and become very sensitive to rim width. We’ve identified conditions (rim in the lows of the diameter’s tolerance, tyre on the highs of the diameter’s tolerances and the lows of the bead stiffness, narrow tyre, wide rim) where tyre can come off the rim. We’ve also measured some wheels and tyres, bought from dealer’s shelves, that were out or on the very edge of the norm tolerances. So, indeed, in most instances, coupling narrow tyres with wide rim doesn’t create any big risks and we are aware thousands of consumers are riding like that. However, as a responsible company, if we can find one instance, being in very extreme conditions, where rider’s safety would be put at stake, we simply cannot support or recommend it.

In January 2018:

ETRTO and ISO norms have recently approved the use of 28mm tyre on 22mm rim, to the condition that the max pressure doesn’t exceed 5.6 bars / 80 PSI. [...] However, the norm organizations will only publish those changes in their next manual editions. And we’ll soon update this article accordingly !

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