# How much of a difference would shifting from a (24/34/44, 14x28) to a (28/38/48, 11x34) configuration make when going downhill?

I currently have a Proton MTB with a 24/34/44 crankset and a 14-28 cassette. I have found the configuration to be lacking when going downhill: The front chain ring doesn't feel stiff enough on the highest gear resulting in me pedaling too hard.

How much of a difference would it make if I shift to a 28/38/48 crankset and a 11-34 cassette? This configuration is found on the Giant Roam 3 (2018) which I am considering buying. I've done some math:

On the MTB, running the highest gear, I am at an effective gear ratio of 44/14 = 3.14 while the Roam 3's config would give me 48/11 = 4.36. On paper, this is a 38% increase, but I am not experienced enough to know if this translates to a significant difference when pedaling.

The other configuration I've mentioned is actually on another bike that I am considering buying (Giant Roam 3 2018). I am not looking to modify the current bike.

• Can you do a test ride? And what kind of downhills? How long? How steep? – Andrew Henle Feb 9 at 15:40
• Unfortunately, no. The area where the shop is located is pretty flat so I can't test it out on the slopes I would usually encounter on my daily route. – Aamir Khan Feb 9 at 18:36
• Not a direct answer but 48/11 on 700c wheels is a good fast downhill gear for a hybrid - that's what mine has. It will reach 50km/h at a comfortable cadence (handy for keeping up with cars to make a turn at the bottom of a hill on my old commute). On another note that's a very narrow range on your MTB cassette. – Chris H Feb 9 at 20:01
• 14-28 sounds like it might be a freewheel not a cassette - can you confirm which it is? A freewheel might not go smaller than 14T – Criggie Feb 9 at 22:01
• As everyone says, it's a huge difference and your downhills will be all set. But consider also this: you are moving from 14-28 to a much more widely spaced 11-34 (assuming the same number of gears; but even if one more...) Depending on your riding style and experience, this is also a huge difference. I personally can't bear such 'disjunct' cassettes with more than 10% spacing (mine are like 12-25). Consider also reducing the lowest gear as well; I can't imagine a need for <1 ratios, honestly. Get 11-28 or -26 or some such. – Zeus Feb 14 at 7:10

38% is a huge difference, and very noticeable on road. Since the bike you are considering has 622mm rims, it adds even more to the effective gear ratio.

• sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html – ojs Feb 9 at 16:01
• The difference between 50 and 48 is only 4%, so I wouldn't worry about it. You are getting most of the improvement from the change 14 to 11 at the rear. If you are upgrading the current bike, you could change the cassette first, keep your current chain rings, and see if it suits your needs. That would defer some of the investmentj. – Ross Millikan Feb 9 at 17:04

It will make a significant difference and increase the top end speed for a given cadence noticeably. Gravity is your friend though going downhill, it’s not like the higher gearing of 48x11 will make you way faster downhill, but you would be able to sustain a comfortable cadence on longer, gentle descents before freewheeling

Meanwhile, at the bottom end, you wouldn’t be sacrificing your lowest gear by much and if you’re riding on the road you would have a gear for most hills (28x34 is lower than or comparable to most roadbikes).

The main comparison I would suggest is that 48x11 on 38mm tyres is exactly the same ‘gain ratio’ as you would have on a road bike with 50x11 top gear and 23mm tyres. You’d just have a slight aerodynamic penalty on the flat bars, which actually benefits in the context of this question when you’re maxing out your cadence on the MTB. Weirdly.

See this table from bikecalc.com - when pedalling at 100 rpm in 48x11 you would be travelling at 35 mph which is a good pace on any bike, especially if you can keep it up!

Going from 44/14 = 3.14 48/11 = 4.36 is a big difference. On a given downhill your pedaling speed would 70% of that required with the lower gearing. You would not lose out on low ratios either: 24/28 = 0.86, 28/34 = 0.82.

The trouble is, your rear derailleur probably cannot accommodate a 11-34 cassette. (Derailleurs have total capacity and max sprocket size specifications. Capacity is the difference between chainring sizes plus the difference between sprocket sizes - the wider range cassette requires 7 more teeth of capacity). Your chainstay may not have a may not have the clearance for the larger chainrings either. You don't say how many rear speeds you have but I'm guessing it's 6 or less if you have a 14-28 sprockets, and you probably actually have a freewheel rather than a freehub and cassette which limits your options. You may be able to squeeze a 12-28 freewheel in which would bring your highest ratio up a bit.

Honestly, if you want better gear ratio options, you may just need to buy the better bike with a more modern drivetrain.

• Thanks for the answer. Yes, the other configuration I've mentioned is actually on another bike that I am considering buying (Giant Roam 3 2018). I am not looking to modify the current bike. – Aamir Khan Feb 9 at 18:35