I'm looking for the perfect frame for my next build and looking for suggestions. This is going to be a commuter bike. I want disc brakes with thru-axles, a classic road-ish geometry as much as possible, clearance for wide tires and fenders and a rear rack. Oh and steel is real :) I'm also going to set it up with flat bars and a 1x drivetrain (probably SRAM Rival 1x).

So far, I have:

-All City Gorilla Monsoon

Looks to check all the boxes but very expensive! Also, I read on a review that it was heavy. I'm not sure if this is just coming from someone that's not used to steel bikes or if it really is heavy compared to, say, a Surly frame.

-Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross Disc (MCD)

Also checks most of the boxes at a better price. The only thing is the geometry is more like a mountain bike than a road bike but IDK if that would work to my advantage with the flat bar setup I'm planning.

Any more suggestions?

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    Note that product recommendations are specifically off-topic: "Questions seeking product/service/learning material recommendations or item valuations are off-topic because they tend to become obsolete quickly." – Andrew Henle Jul 19 '19 at 15:35
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    It seems like most of the non-product-recommendation questions you could reasonably ask, like best posture/geometry/materials for a commuter bike, you've already decided, at which point it's up to you to find an existing product that meets your criteria. – DavidW Jul 19 '19 at 15:40
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    All steel frames are relatively heavy. – Argenti Apparatus Jul 19 '19 at 15:53
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    @ArgentiApparatus is correct that steel frames are heavier than carbon or aluminum ones of similar price level. However, almost all riders weigh over 100 lbs, sometimes close to 200lbs. A steel frame will be a penalty of 1-2 lbs. That is not Also, the OP used Surly as a reference point, and I believe all their bikes are steel. Relatively heavy steel, at that. – Weiwen Ng Jul 19 '19 at 17:03
  • @WeiwenNg I note All City specs 612 CroMoly steel for the GM frame. Surely uses 4130 CroMoly on the Cross-Check. I expect those frames are going to come out a bit heavier than say a Gunnar which uses Reynolds or True Temper tube sets. – Argenti Apparatus Jul 19 '19 at 18:09

There is no such thing as the "perfect frame." This is why the N+1 rule exists:

Rule #12: The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.

While the minimum number of bikes one should own is three, the correct number is n+1, where n is the number of bikes currently owned. This equation may also be re-written as s-1, where s is the number of bikes owned that would result in separation from your partner.


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