Every time i would google a bike issue this forum always come up so i thought i would join as it seems this group is very patient with beginners to the MTB world. I know there is similar post to this already on the forum but as i'm a complete novice & would absolutely love to be able to do my own bicycle maintenance, i really need exact help with what i'm trying to do.

I have TREK marlin 5 2019 mountain bike.

Which i now mainly use as a commuter bike & to take my child to nursery with bike seat and rack on the back. I haven't changed to road bike, as i ride along canal footpaths & cobbled streets & down flights of steps on the way back. I'm now getting very bad chain slippage when in the middle and biggest ring on the crankset. On closer inspection it looks some of the teeth have worn down (please see image new vs mineenter image description here) which is crazy seeing the bike is only two years old. But its had poor maintenance and maybe with the weight of my child on the back this has happened sooner than it should.

To cut to point of my questions. I would like to replace/upgrade the crankset (as the current crankset is riveted together so i can't replace separate rings) also i would like to be able to go faster along the street. It currently has a "Shimano Tourney TY301, 42/34/24" can you please recommend another crankset that would fit this bike that has a bigger top chain ring to help with speed? It looks like i might have to buy a cotterless crank tool & torque wrench to do this job?

I've always wanted to have a bike with Shimano Deore xt components ( but i know this would be super expensive for a XT triple crank set ) Could you please tell me if a Shimano Deore xt crankset would fit and what model number should i look for? If the XT components wouldn't fit could please recommend another shimano crankset that's bigger (in terms of a larger top chain ring) and would fit?

Could you also please tell me if i need to stick with a triple crankset (i would like the lowest gear still as sometime i do find some steeper hills)?

And by changing the crankset to bigger triple can i still use my current front and back derailleur's, cassette & shifters?

I have listed out all the current components out below.

Also would you buy a new chain a the same time?

Finally, if buying these two items doesn't solve the slipping issue, i'm guessing there could be a few things causing this issue, like a rear hub, or needing to change the derailleur's? If you could please try and help me diagnose what it could be, i would be hugely appreciative.

Sorry there are so many questions in this one post.

Really hope someone can take help me.

Shifters: Shimano Altus M310, 7 speed

Front & Rear derailleur: Shimano Tourney TY300

Crank: Shimano Tourney TY301, 42/34/24

Max chainring size: 1x: 32T, 3x: 42T

Bottom Bracket: Sealed cartridge, 73mm

Cassette: Shimano HGG200, 12-32, 7 speed

Chain: KMC Z51

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It's quite unlikely you can't get enough top speed on that bike with those gears.

A 42/12 ratio with 29x2.2" tyres results in a 28mph top speed at 90rpm (most people could pedal faster). Since it is a mountain bike, you probably won't be going that fast except maybe down a steep hill, in which case not pedalling usually works out faster. On a lightweight road bike in a peloton this gearing might be insufficient. But for solo riding on an upright bike realistically you won't be pedalling very fast for very long because the air resistance will slow you down too much.

Your current chainset is non-replacable chainrings, so it's a fairly wasteful piece of design in that you must throw it away when you wear out a chainring. However since 7 or 8-speed (anything more requires a narrower chain and a total replacement of your entire drivetrain) is old, Shimano don't make a quality 8-speed chainset any more. So you might as well just replace with the same chainset you have now. It's heavy and disposable, but it works fine.

The other problem with your bike is the fork, which is a low quality one. Probably SR Suntour XCE or XCT. Upgrading this would definitely be more expensive than finding a used bike with slightly higher quality parts fitted (i.e. SR Suntour XCR coil at a minimum, but probably better an air fork).

At this point you can also consider whether you are not better off with no suspension, as this will make you faster and lighter work, typically.

Also there isn't anything specific to 'XT' as opposed to lower chainsets. Sometimes it means 'hollow crank arms', but sometimes you get that on 'SLX' as well. Usually the chainrings are lighter, but not necessarily more durable.

The advantages of XT are mostly in the shifters, which have 'instant release' and other features making them nicer to use, and in the rear derailleur which tends to be better quality.

You could definitely upgrade your bike to something more like the Marlin 7


but this would need:

  • new shifters (XT are the best choice)
  • new rear derailleur (XT is the best choice)
  • new front derailleur (Deore is fine)

on top of what you already need which is:

  • crankset
  • probably new BB
  • cassette
  • chain

And these parts would be more expensive ones as well.

Doing that is fine, the problem is having XT parts and that awful fork is kinda not a good match.

So you're likely better off looking for a used 3x10 speed bike if you wanted to go that route - it would have better parts all around.

BTW I'd recommend the X8 chain for higher durability rather than the lower Z series you have.


Contrary to other answers, there is a way to have everything you asked for: instead of buying new, find an old square taper XT crankset. At the time of writing this, it took 15 seconds to find one on eBay.

The old crankset will fit square taper bottom bracket (but you'll have to check that the length matches or is close enough). It will be compatible with your chain because 7 or 8 speeds were state of the art at the time. It will have the "XT" mark. At the time they were made MTB cranksets were always triples and it was common to have 46 or 48 tooth large ring (but as said in other answers, it's not going to make you faster, these were supposed to be used by racers on easy XC courses). There haven't been huge advances in cheap metallurgy since that time, so it's probably going to be better quality than current cheap square taper crank.

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    there are Deore XT decals available on Ebay in about 15 seconds as well....
    – thelawnet
    Nov 14, 2020 at 18:44
  • true, but they're not going to fool either the owner or anyone who knows anything about bike components
    – ojs
    Nov 14, 2020 at 18:45
  • yeah but neither will the cheap fork, tourney RD, shifters, etc.
    – thelawnet
    Nov 14, 2020 at 18:46
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    as far as I understood, the question was about new crankset
    – ojs
    Nov 14, 2020 at 18:48
  • Yes it was. However the wider context is that the crankset tends to be the area on the bike that is lower spec than the rest. You can get better RoI by dropping your $$$ into other parts first.
    – thelawnet
    Nov 14, 2020 at 18:57

Thank all for your time in replying. This forum is awesome. Yes even though the bike is in low quality range i new this when i bought it. As i new what it would be used for. I didn't want anything amazing for this job. I realise the fork and all components are the cheapest you can prob get in that range. But i would rather not have to shell out for whole a new bike at the moment. I would rather upgrade with better parts when i need to, (although i will take advice from thelawnet and buy tools to check and replace the chain regularly so this never happens again) even though upgrading parts doesn't make any sense in re-selling the bike and losing money etc. But i have grown a little sentimental about the bike. And have also done a little bit of work to (this is nothing compared to what you all probably do daily) but the rear hub quick release spindle/axle snapped a while ago (prob due to weight of the baby) and so it took me days of research just to try and find a replacement sold spindle/axle that would fit and be strong enough not break again. So it's tiny mods like this i would rather keep it going rather than upgrading the whole bike.

Regarding wanting to be able to go faster, even though the bike is incredibly heavy with the bike seat / rack and 2x Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit d-locks. I ride over 20k every day. And in certain areas of flat roads, strava and apple watch tells me my max speed was 29mph and i spend 80% of the route in the hardest gears whish i wasn't having to pendal like crazy. And when i am hitting 28/29mph i'm still pedaling so fast and road bikes are passing me with legs hardly moving! So i really would like to enlarge the crankset if this is possible.

So from everyone who has posted this is what i've taken from this:

Forget about upgrading parts to XT on this bike its not worth the money

Because i have done no maintenance (all my own fault) i've left it to late and need to buy all these parts:

probably new BB

 And these tools: (will definitely invest in tools as i want to fix the bike going forward)

chain gauge
Crank Extractor if the crank is not self extracting.
Cassette tool and chain whip to remove the cassette.
Hex keys. (got these)
Chain tool to shorten the supplied chain to size.
Big adjustable spanner. (got this)

Upgrade the chain to an X8

Or possibly buy an old XT crankset. This was the crankset i fell in love with as a kid but it was always on the top spec bike which i could never afford: https://www.ebay.co.uk/c/1823340930 But i would need to do a load of research to check this would fit? I guess i need to make sure the cranks arms are the same length as i have now as well? I'm worried i would get this wrong with my novice-ness. As this is 46 could it give me slightly more 'harder to pedal" in the hardest gear / slightly more speed?

Thanks again to everyone who took time to reply and help me

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