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Can I replace the current 11-42T cassette of my State Bicycle 4130 All-Road with the Shimano Deore XT 11-46T? How is the compatibility? Do I need to replace other components as well, in order to make this possible? Thanks in advance!

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    Which derailleur do you have? How many sprockets? (10/11/12?)
    – JoeK
    Feb 26 '21 at 19:51
  • State Bicycle Co. All-Road 1; 1x11 Feb 26 '21 at 19:58
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    Is it their horrible own-brand derailleur? You will have to ask them. Customer service is very good though. You should get a definitive answer very quickly.
    – JoeK
    Feb 26 '21 at 20:01
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    Yes, I guess. Yeah, I already did. Just want to hear from others as well, while waiting for their reply. Feb 26 '21 at 20:03
  • It will probably work fine but could require adjustment that makes most gear changes less precise so best to get it from the horse's mouth.
    – JoeK
    Feb 26 '21 at 20:06
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This State Bicycle All Road has the same specs you pointed out. It appears as though it comes with State's own brand of derailleur with a long cage. The single ring crank has 42 teeth, the same as the big, low gear sprocket of the cassette. To determine if you can run a cassette with a larger low sprocket of 46 teeth as you propose, the rear derailleur must be spec'd for that capacity. Due to the odd, State branded rear derailleur, there isn't much information available about it's specs. Reviews of the bike, in discussing the shifting, are mixed to poor, and in cases where the reviewer has experience with SRAM or Shimano drivetrains, the State derailleur doesn't fare well in comparison.

You probably would be ok going up 4 teeth in your max low sprocket with a little adjustment of the B-screw to move the derailleur cage down a bit to accommodate the larger low sprocket. Then again, it may have trouble where shifting is less smooth to the larger cog or it could even fail to get the chain onto it. With the dearth of specs for the State derailleur, I cannot say if the thing has a B-screw adjustment even.

The Shimano XT cassette, 11-46t is designed to be used with a 1x drivetrain--thats a single chainring up front, but usually it's a chainwheel with a tooth count in the 30's. The 11-46t version has a very large jump of 9 teeth from the second largest rear sprocket of 37 teeth to the top 46 tooth. That's basically a bailout gear akin to the use of a granny ring on a bike with a front triple. My point in all this, is to advise that if it is lower gearing you seek, it would likely be better and less expensive to change your front chainring to a smaller tooth count. For example the current 42t chainwheel combined with the proposed 46t low sprocket yields a gear ratio of 0.91. Changing to a 38t chainring and keeping the 42t rear cog yields a ratio of 0.90. virtually the same low but you've preserved the tighter range of the 11-42t cassette so the jumps between gears is less making the ability to maintain a comfortable cadence more possible. The draw back is you'll lose a little off the top end, where the current high ratio of 3.81 drops to 3.4. (I'm strapped for time to figure the mph change of those differing ratios for a given cadence, but it will fairly minimal). Depending on how and where you ride, that may be of some significance.

Discussion of prices on SE is off topic due to the changing nature of them as well as their wide variation from place to place and through time. I will offer that at this time, a single chainring will run you somewhere around 50-60% the cost of the XT cassette. The chain will have to be resized as well. The smaller chainring idea means cutting a few links from your current chain. Adding a new, larger cassette will require adding a few links to the chain, which is problematic in a case where you've purchased the whole bike because it's not common for the seller to include the extra links, if any, yielded from the manufacture or assembly of the bike. It may be you'll have to purchase another chain with the larger cassette to get to an appropriate length. Minor point but possible source of extra cost.

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    This makes so much more sense, to change the chainring instead. Thank you so much for this! Feb 26 '21 at 22:05
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    You're very welcome. I just had a thought about changing the chainring: the crankset, too, is State branded one, and you should first check that the current chainring is removable and replaceable by looking for the presence of chainring bolts. Some manufacturers design cranks that have riveted chainrings which are not removable in which case an entirely different crankset would be required to change the front tooth count. Cost would be more than replacing just a chainring, but it wouldn't be impossible to acquire a different crankset for a similar cost as the new XT cassette proposed.
    – Jeff
    Feb 26 '21 at 22:25
  • Yes, exactly. Will double check this, as well as confirm with their customer service, which is pretty good, if you ask me. Thanks again for this, Jeff! Feb 27 '21 at 12:25

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