While replacing an inner tube, I whacked my rear wheel's tire on a rock to make sure the tube inside was straight and had no kinks. While doing so, my cassette fell off, together with a few inner parts. I could maybe prevent that if I held the wheel the other way around.

Is this normal? I heard that you need a pretty specialized tool to get the cassette off, so maybe not.

On the other hand, I was able to reassemble everything and continue riding the trail, so maybe it's no big deal.

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    "A few inner parts" suggests something important came off with it. You got home, but until you're sure what happened, assume it is a big deal that could fail again, perhaps worse. A broken axle is one possibility. I suggest you take it apart again at home and photograph it. It's just about possible the cassette lockring was totally loose and nothing but the cassette fell off, but they don't work loose. Any trouble shifting, before or after this incident?
    – Chris H
    Commented Jan 22, 2023 at 12:53
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    Try and pick up all the loose parts, and take a photo of them. It could be the pawls have fallen out and they're small. If bearings have come loose then they're tiny (but replaceable)
    – Criggie
    Commented Jan 22, 2023 at 18:33
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    sounds much like free-hub. Some slide off easily, eg DT350.
    – gschenk
    Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 10:55
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    Unrelated, but how does whacking the wheel against a rock ensure that the tube is straight?
    – ojs
    Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 11:20
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    @ojs I believe the technique is called "impact calibration", or, in some regions, "percussive realignment". :-) Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 13:21

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I think that perhaps what has happened is you have a more modern wheel having a thru axle hub. Some manufacturers design the rear hub to accept the 4 major freehub body types as well as accepting different end caps so the wheel can be used with a thru axle or in a bike with conventional dropouts and a QR skewer. To make cleaning and swapping the freehub or converting axle standards as user friendly as possible, the rear hub of a such a system has end caps and freehub bodies that can be removed by hand. This works because what holds everything together is the securing of the thru axle into the frame (or in the case of a QR skewer, it's mating to the acorn nut on the side opposite it's entry). The cassette is still secured to the free hub body by the cassette lockring.

When the wheel is out of the bike on these types of hubs, one can oftentimes pull firmly enough on the cassette such that it will dislodge the end cap. This allows the cassette and freehub body to which it's connected, to come off the hub axle. It's designed to do that, albeit in a more controlled and expected situation. In fact, in hubs of this type, if the cassette and lockring has been removed in preparation for disassembly and cleaning of the internals, one may have difficulty getting enough purchase on the end cap to pull it off by hand. The trick is to replace the cassette and lock ring, and give the whole drive side assembly a tug--off pops the end cap and the free hub body/cassette comes along for the ride.

So, if you have this type of rear hub, the banging of the rim with the cassette side down, the momentum of the cassette and freehub body forced the end cap off and they kept going too. It's important to know what bits came out and that they've been replaced in the correct position. As others mentioned, a pawl could've popped out of its housing (I'd guess pretty rare in this situation), a toothed drive ring, a spring and a washer are all other tid bits that MAY* be contained behind the freehub body in these hubs and are essential to the health and function of the hub and need to be in the correct orientation.

*Different manufacturers, different designs mean different loose pieces depending. For instance, on a type Mavic rear hub, there will be a light spring, toothed drive ring, the axle and washer. A Hunt V2 rear hub only has a small washer in addition to the axle and freehub body that is part of the disassembly. A seal may come loose too but they're usually press fit into the hub or around the body firmly enough they stay in place. Incorrect seal orientation or not being fully set in their seat can be a source of friction or drag in the rear wheel.

  • The reason this is usually not an issue with quick release (QR), even with the same hub, is the QR prevents the end cap from sliding off.
    – gschenk
    Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 10:58

Your cassette lockring should never come loose. It should be tightened to ~50Nm ~40Nm which is a lot.

I think it’s more likely that your freehub body (together with the cassette) came off the rear hub. On some rear hubs (e.g. DT Swiss 240 and 350) you can just pull it off with some force. They just have a slight friction fit on the axle. Pulling the freehub body off exposes the pawls of the freewheel mechanism. Make sure you still have all the pawls and their springs and they are inserted correctly.

  • I was thinking something similar but I'm only used to Shimano QRs with cup&cone bearings so the axle holds everything together. With cartridge bearings and thru-axles it will be different of course
    – Chris H
    Commented Jan 22, 2023 at 12:56
  • The spec for Shimano cassettes is 40 N-m (29 lb-ft). Personally, I have never gone beyond that (I use a torque wrench) and have never had a lockring come loose. Can it take 50 N-m? Probably, but you are getting closer to a fastener failure point.
    – Ted Hohl
    Commented Jan 22, 2023 at 20:19
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    @TedHohl I can never be bothered to get out the big torque wrench for cassettes, as I know from experience that considerably less torque holds and makes the next service much easier
    – Chris H
    Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 6:56
  • @ChrisH I hear ya. I am a bit more tightly wound and use a torque wrench more than most. At least with cassettes, the detents in the lockring offer an additional frame of reference for how much to tighten (and considerable prevention from a lockring backing off too).
    – Ted Hohl
    Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 7:23
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    I think proper torque on the lockring can prevent the sprockets from biting into the aluminium freehub body. Maybe it can also reduce sprocket flex by a tiny amount (and therefore improve shifting performance).
    – Michael
    Commented Jan 23, 2023 at 7:28

No, it absolutely should not. There are threads that hold the lockring in place. Apart that it must be properly tightened, these threads must turn for the significant angle to unscrew/disengage. You should have noticed this happening.

I suspect the following scenarios:

  • Instead of the required 40 Nm the lockring was only tightened with finger tips when assembling.
  • The lockring has actually been significantly over-tightened and the threads are damaged, so the lockring jumped away without being unscrewed.

Check if the lockring sits well in its place after you screw it in. If the threads are indeed damaged, you may need to replaced the damaged parts.


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