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In many hot wax application tutorials, it is advised that, after removing the chain from the wax bath and having allowed it to cool, the chain should become stiff, requiring manual movement of the links before installation on the bike.

However, if the chain remains relatively easy to "bend" after waxing, does this indicate improper wax application - for example, if not enough wax has penetrated between the plates/rollers? What could be the potential causes for this issue if it is one?

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    It would also depend on the ambient temperature. Stiff in winter, flexible in high-summer.
    – Kingsley
    Commented Jul 23 at 5:30
  • I was pleasantly surprised that I received all cycling-related results when asking my favourite search engine "Is a stiff chain after hot wax application a sign of a correct wax application?" Then again, I have adult content filtering enabled for a reason. Commented Jul 23 at 6:05

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It's hard to be sure what's wrong without being there. My guess is that the chain wasn't completely clean.

Indicators that the wax adhered properly

When I melt wax my chain with one of the high-quality commercial blends, most of the links (i.e. not every single link) take a bit of force to break the wax before they articulate. Also, a properly hot waxed chain sheds a lot of wax bits in the first few miles. You said you're using Slica. If you run your hand over the chain, it feels waxy but dry - there isn't an oil residue on your hands. The high-quality blends have high-grade paraffin with very low oil content. In contrast, candles may feel like there's a residue on your hands because many of them have higher oil content (lower grade paraffin).

If your chain has a bit of oily residue, it should attract some dirt during riding. Chances are this would produce higher wear. As I stated in comments, higher-end Shimano chains have a low-friction coating that's thought not to work as well as some others with wax. In my direct experience, they're still stiff when they come out. They would have poorer treatment life than other chains - Adam Kerin has said that YBN chains work well with molten wax.1

What to do now - maybe keep going and monitor the situation

If I'm correct about the cause, then probably this means your chain would attract some dirt and wear a bit faster than normal. If you have someone with waxing experience that you can ask in person, then why not ask.

If this is happening, you could try riding it and see what happens. Silca is said to get at least 200-300 miles per treatment. I think I would just leave the chain for now. Monitor how dirty the chain gets and monitor the treatment life. If you feel like the chain is doing OK, then you could leave it.

You could also clean it thoroughly and maybe discard the wax in your pot

If you feel like re-waxing it, I would clean it in boiling water, and then repeat your cleaning procedure. If you aren't confident you can get it fully clean, consider buying Silca's or Ceramicspeed's chain cleaning solution. Those are one-step solutions (in contrast, mineral spirits and alcohol is multi-step). Now, if I'm correct, the wax in your pot is, theoretically, a bit contaminated with the original chain lube.

I'm not sure how much residual oil will materially affect the treatment. If your other three chains are fine, you could just leave the pot. I previously said consider discarding the wax, but this may be unnecessary.

If you do discard the wax, I believe that Molten Speed Wax is half the price of Silca and essentially the same formulation (similar grade paraffin, same basic friction modifier).

What to do next time

How important is it that you adhere to the recommendations of the aficionados? I don't know for sure. I have no personal experience. Because I know that high-quality wax works, I stick to the process I know. Some shop mechanics who've been on cycling tech-related podcasts say that they've seen a lot of bad wax jobs that wind up dirty. It's still possible that imperfect cleaning will play OK with molten wax. And I know one person who swears that just throwing the chains, factory grease and all, into plain paraffin works fine.

If you want to fully adhere to the procedure but you aren't confident in your cleaning technique, you can outsource the cleaning by buying a pre-waxed chain. In the US, Molten Speed Wax, Silca, Premier Bike, and probably a few other vendors will happily sell you a chain. Or, as I said above, get one of the one-step chain cleaners.

Or Silca has that new strip chip which lets you put a chain with factory grease in the pot. If you go this route, please read and adhere to that treatment's instructions, keeping mind that you have to hit a high temperature and make sure it stays in a narrow range. That treatment also isn't designed to rescue an imperfectly-cleaned chain.

Footnote

  1. YBN chains have a nickel-PTFE coating. Shimano treats higher end chains with some sort of flurocarbon-based coating. This applies to 11s and 12s 105 (aka 7000) and higher chains (not sure about earlier chains). I don't think the Linkglide chains use the low-friction treatment. Shimano's website reports that the "roller link pin" on the LG-500 chain has a chrome treatment, which I think increases durability. SRAM chains use some sort of chrome treatment for durability as well. In chat, you said that you treated some Linkglide chains and the wax seemed to adhere. Even with this information, I don't think the low-friction coating on the XT chain is to blame based on my prior experience with Ultegra and DA 11s chains.
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  • Thanks for the reply, in that case, it was one of 3 chains that I did one batch (they have been degreased with the Ceramic UFO degreaser), the wax is the Silca one. I'm wondering if it's also not linked to the coating - it's the only HG95 so XT/Ultegra level (first I use it with hot wax, I was using one successfully with drip wax already — I remember having read that some upper Shimano chains are not ideal for waxing), the others are the LinkGlide ones.
    – Rеnаud
    Commented Jul 22 at 14:20
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    In my experience, high-end Shimano chains (which have a low-friction coating that may not play well with wax) will still be stiff after hot waxing.
    – Weiwen Ng
    Commented Jul 22 at 15:04
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    To complement your comment about LinkGlide chain durability, the ZFC sells pre-waxed LG500/LinkGlide chains and the product description suggests that wear resistance gains are significant. Unfortunately, the results haven't been added to the pages with the synthetic results.
    – Rеnаud
    Commented Jul 25 at 15:53
  • @Renaud Interesting. Others should note that ZFC are in Australia, and shipping from there tends to be expensive.
    – Weiwen Ng
    Commented Jul 25 at 16:47
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Following a discussion in the chat (thanks Criggie and gschenk), I realised that some steps may have been done properly, so decided to reapply the wax to the problematic chain, and the chain behaves as expected after a wax bath.

The two steps that could have been wrong are:

  • improper agitation of the chain in the wax bath: I was moving it "laterally" (relative to the position it would have in the bike), so the links were almost not turning, which seems to be a good enabler to allow the wax to penetrate between the links. The chain that was problematic was also the last one in a batch (I crammed 3 chains in a 18cm/7in pot), so there was even less space to move it.
  • Another possible misstep is the temperature when I removed the chain from the bath, that was too high (an tutorial from Silca indicates that a good moment to remove the wax is when a film forms at the surface, I didn't wait that long the other day). This should however play a minor role, as I suspect that wax at 80°C shouldn't be fluid enough to leave the space between the plates/rollers.

Degreasing, as suggested by @Weiwen NG, was also a prime candidate explanation. I used the CeramicSpeed UFO Drivetrain Cleaner to perform the initial cleaning of the chain (also mentioned by Weiwen NG, along Silca's products), this product works indeed well for this purpose, especially on new chains. This answer is certainly a good reference though, as not everyone is using this kind of product and cleaning with thinners/alcool is time consuming and more error-prone.

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    I am glad it was simpler than I thought. I came to the chat late and didn't see that you had simultaneously waxed several chains.
    – Weiwen Ng
    Commented Jul 25 at 15:31
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This is totally normal. In my experience, the chain will harden/stiffen as it cools.

To make installation easier, I lay the chain in a straight line, using a heat proof tool (an old screwdriver bent into a hook used for pulling the chain from the wax. To keep it clean I lay it on a piece of cardboard.

Note that reinstalling will drop small flakes of wax, and can make that spot on the ground quite slippery. Clean up before you fall down !

This stiffness in the chain goes away within a few minutes of riding and you're left with a very flexible, clean chain that won't attract dirt like oil can.

What's not to like other than the time taken.

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    If I get it right, the question is more along the lines of "my chain is not stiff, is that a problem?" Commented Jul 24 at 14:14
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    @BenediktBauer your understanding of the question is indeed correct.
    – Rеnаud
    Commented Jul 25 at 15:45

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