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Is it safe to ride on wheels with rusted spoke eyelets?

I bought an old Bianchi with 26" wheels and I’m finding it hard to find a replacement with max width 23 mm tires and an old 6 speed freewheel I was trying to true the wheels but the nipples where ...
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Deriving formula for spoke lengths

I know that I can use online calculators or tables to determine spoke length. I also know that there are some pre-derived formulas for spoke length that I could use to calculate the spoke lengths or ...
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Wheel centred in frame but dished 8mm to non drive side, why is this happening?

This is a 135mm OLD wheel mounted in a 130 mm frame. I removed spacers from the axle to make it 130mm. I then put the wheel in the frame and proceeded to dish. I made sure the distance between the rim ...
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Will this modern road bike hub fit in my 1990's MTB (130mm restoration)

I have a mid 1990's MTB with 130mm OLD between dropouts. In order to fit a 9 speed Hyperglide cassette I switched the wheel for a modern 135mm and removed spacers on the non drive side. Works like a ...
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Help finding diameter for WTB ST i30

I need to replace my rim, and I'm hoping to rebuild the wheel myself. It would be really useful to know the ERD (effective rim diameter) of my current rim, so I can see whether a straight swap will be ...
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Spokes bow out from the hub flange

Wheel building using a SON Dynamo hub (28 12 disc), Wheelsmith DB14 spokes (stainless; J-bend), and Velocity Atlas rims (700c; 32 hole) with a two-cross lacing pattern. Disc brake, loaded touring. The ...
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linseed oil with DT Swiss Pro Lock nipples

I will build a new wheel with DT Swiss Pro Lock nipples. It will be wy first time with these. Iread they feature an adhesive compound that helps the wheel to keep true (DT Swiss marketing). Will I ...
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Should I seriously consider radial lacing?

Summary: Radial lacing looks cool, but is it better? Not expecting bicycles.SE to be the right forum, I asked about the dynamics of spokes on Engineering.SE and didn't get a satisfying answer. I then ...
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Surly Rabbit Hole Wheel Build (Symmetrical Fat Bike Rim build) - Spoke Calculation help?

I have a set of 26" Surly Rabbit Hole rims, which I need to build into a wheelset for a fat bike. The Rabbit hole rims are unique in that the spoke holes are not in the center of the rim. The ...
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Glue in nipple seat in brand new rim?

I've just laced up a new DT Swiss R470 rim and noticed that one of the nipples next to the rim joint isn't protruding as much from the rim as the others. I looked in from the outside and noticed that ...
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Is it ok to use one odd spoke for a wheel build?

I will be using sapim D-light spokes for my wheel build. But I want to make one spoke on each wheel a different color, next to the valve stem. The sapim spokes are not available in colors. Would it ...
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Replacing a "simple" hub with a dynamo hub

I asked a question recently about replacing a cracked front hub on a vintage steel wheel (How to replace a broken front hub on a vintage steel wheel from a vintage steel bike?) Thanks for all the ...
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How to replace a broken front hub on a vintage steel wheel from a vintage steel bike?

My mother's old bike is being used as a 'spare bike' for various of the kids. It's from the '70s, a steel framed, steel wheeled, dynamo lit, sit up and beg granny bike with a sturmey archer three ...
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Trying to understand the impact of different tensions between inner and outer spokes

I am seeing variation between inner and outer spoke tensions on straight pull wheels (3x but no interlacing). The guidance given to me is to have even tension of all spokes on each side of the wheel, ...
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Can I use a 272mm spoke in place of a 275mm?

I'm currently building my first wheel and I've used prowheelbuilder.com to calculate what spokes I need to use, which is Left 275.8, Right 275.7 for the rear wheel, and Left and Right 275 for the ...
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What is the "nipple head height" of a DT Swiss Squorx nipple?

What is the nipple head height of a DT Swiss Squorx Nipple? I am building a wheel and to calculate the ERD, I must first figure out what the "nipple head height" is. The rim of choice is a ...
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What are the benefits of hand built wheels over automated ones? [duplicate]

I just read this page http://www.jpracingbike1.com/content/6-pourquoi-un-montage-de-roues-artisanales- explaining that 'artisanal' aka hand built wheels are better for many reasons, such as having ...
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Wheelbuilding spoke tension vs lateral truing

I am using rim that is not bent, i screw each spoke nipples at equal distance from point when spoke thread is covered by nipple until spokes are tense. i get perfectly laterally true wheel, however ...
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Wheel building - how to tighten spokes to have perfectly equal tension

So far I figured it out following recipe for perfectly adjusted front rim: Assemble the wheel leaving tiny portion of thread visible outside nipple for every spoke. Tighten each nipple equal number ...
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Proper spoke tension when dishing to the side of the hub

I am building wheel with 7 speed freewheel so my rim dishing needs to be towards the side of the hub. Using 281mm spokes on both sides of the hub except for side close to freewheel used 12mm nipples ...
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Spokes go further inside rim than others

Used all 184mm spokes, nipples screwed in equally just to cover the spoke thread, wheel is almost true, however some spokes go inside rim further than others! Already tried to tighten them its same ...
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2 cross pattern not going right on Front wheel build

I need to make 2 cross spoke pattern (because lack of proper length spokes) for front wheel, i am however having some problem - green spokes stick out trough the rim ~4-5mm longer than blue spokes. ...
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3 cross pattern what's the right way?

I have one wheel that has lacing pattern like #1 and other wheel is lacing pattern #2? What is the right way to make 3 cross lacing pattern? Blue spokes cross over green Green spokes cross over blue
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Are small radially laced motor hub wheels like Swytch trash?

I saw a bike that recently had this kit installed on it, and was surprised at the radial spokes: From having done rebuilds on 20" motor hub wheels, I can appreciate the temptation to look at ...
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How to properly lace spokes in rim with offset holes

When i make 3-cross pattern in regular rim with aligned spoke holes i put first green spoke in first hole to the left of air valve (in order to have no cross around air valve) then moving counter ...
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Can spoke j-bend be too long for hub?

I have antique hub where i put new spokes and spoke j-bend appears to be too long (This picture spokes are only hand tightened)? Original spokes j-bend was shorter compared to new.
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Rebuilding wheel using 284mm instead of original 281mm spokes?

I bought a new rear hub, same exact size as old, original spokes were 281mm however spokes i bought by mistake are 284mm, can i still use them to rebuild? I have deep double walled rim with lots of ...
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What is the durability of a bicycle wheel?

I have built a bicycle wheel from spokes, nipples, hub and rim. How long can I expect my creation to last? Naturally I would like the wheel I spent great efforts to build to last as long as it can.
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Slight Difference in Spoke Tension Between Inner and Outer Spokes on Straightpull Hubs?

I recently built up my first set of straightpull wheels, with I9 hubs and traditional DT Swiss Competition spokes. (Hubs were from a I9 Trail S Hydra wheelset and are very much like DTs.) Something I ...
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Experience with Panasonic Dynamo hubs?

I'm starting to spec out a dynamo hub wheel build for light touring/randonneuring. Was planning on going with a Shutter Precision hub, but just stumbled on these Panasonic hubs on sale at Soma for $21....
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Why is my wheel going out of true after I mount and inflate the tire?

I’m wrapping up my very first wheel build (rear wheel), and I noticed that the wheel is going out of true after I installed the tire. Before installing the tire, I had the wheel trued pretty well (...
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15g / 1.8mm spokes compatibility

I usually use double butted 2mm spokes that are 1.8mm in the middle. In the past, though, I have used 1.8mm straight guage spokes when I was able to drill the holes in the hub flanges myself to a ...
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Can I build a wheel with two different spoke types?

Is it possible to build a bicycle wheel using a different spoke type for each side of the wheel? I am having some issues sourcing spokes, but I have found one set of DT Swiss Competition and one set ...
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How to avoid damaging spoke nipples when wheel building

I have just successfully built two wheels. The final step of the process was perfecting the true and the dish. I used a spoke key for this, and this resulted in unwanted scuffing and nicks on the (...
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How to select a rim?

I have noticed there are a huge number of rims available for sale. Some are cheap, some are expensive. Some are intended for rim brakes, some are intended for disc brakes. Not all rims are available ...
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Why did my 28-spoke front wheel lost all tension but rear only some?

I have an electric road bike with disc brakes. Its stock front and rear tires have only 28 spokes and a slightly deeper than ordinary rim. The hubs are cheap non-Shimano hubs, but their flange ...
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How to model the dynamic tension distribution of a loaded bicycle wheel?

Jobst Brandt has in his book The Bicycle Wheel the results of a computer simulation of the dynamic tension distribution in a loaded bicycle wheel. However, the code of the simulation is not available. ...
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Problems with spoke threads, and stressing the wheel

I was building up a rear wheel with brand new spokes and nipples. I used linseed oil on the threads so that when it dries it hardens. When I stress the wheel/spokes the threads slip, causing the spoke ...
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Single wall rims with disc brakes

I'm building up a 36-spoke dynamo front wheel for a Mongoose Envoy cargo bike. It will be used casually for short trips, but I weigh 230 lbs and I may have a child or a load of groceries on. The stock ...
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How much leeway do I have on ERD?

I am following up on this thread. I have found a few rims that match the ERD (604) of my rim, and if necessary I can use one of those. But I would like to consider others as well. How much leeway ...
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Finding a rim to swap in on a damaged wheel

I have a rear wheel with a 29" WTP STp i25 rim. The rim is irreparably damaged, but the wheel is otherwise in good condition. The spokes are not affected, the hub is great, and the wheel was ...
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Bent spokes after lacing

It's the first time I build a wheel (3 cross) and I would like to use these components: DT Swiss H522 29" rim 36H DT Swiss Hybrid 350 Hub 36H DT Swiss Champion 2.0/1.8 J spokes When I insert ...
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Is this spoke tension too low?

I am building a wheel and it is (pretty much) perfectly dished Spoke tension calculator measurements say: However, my wheel required a lot of offset to get the dish correct. My park tool TM-1 ...
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Spokes are too long for wheel build. What did I do wrong?

Tonight, I began the process of building a new wheel. I purchased an Industry Nine Hydra Hub (MTN - 32 hole - Classic Rear Hub - ISO 6 Bolt - 12x148 HG) Here are the calculations posted on their ...
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Correct spoke tension for DT Swiss EX 471 26" 32h rim paired with Wheelsmith DB 14 spokes

I am currently in the process of building a wheel, and I'm super confused on how to determine the correct spoke tension. I bought the Park Tool TM-1 to correctly gauge the tension. DT Swiss doesn't ...
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Diagnosing and correcting hop on carbon wheel

NOTE - please read update below and all comments. I have a Mavic Cosmic carbon wheel which is perfectly true, but it has some vertical hop (3-4 mm). I thought at first that it was out of round, but ...
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Using an 8 speed cassette on an 10-11 speed Tiagra FH-RS400

I'm trying to build a new set of wheels for touring trip (2 months) I have planned and can only find a Tiagra FH-RS400 hub. The issues is that my shifters are Claris 3x8 ST-2403-L and cannot support ...
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Is it common for the left side spokes of a front disc wheel to have more tension than the right side spokes?

Wiping my bike down after a wet ride, I noticed that the left side spokes on my front wheel are tighter than the right side. I don't have a tensionometer but squeezing pairs on each side and plucking ...
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Is there a benefit of lacing trailer wheel spokes radially instead of crossed?

Reading a review of a bike trailer one of the commentators noted that the wheels were laced radially: It is a 16" wheel. Does this configuration have some advantage making it a good choice? I always ...
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Using 16 hole front rim to build a rear wheel

I have the opportunity to buy 2 front Shimano Dura Ace C40 latest generation wheels at a very cheap price. The hole count for the wheelset is 16/21. Could I build / have built a rear wheel from one of ...
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