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Group riding etiquette

There are a number of problems in your situation, including the behaviour of the groups, which I will breakdown as the following: A group of 50 is excessively large and it sounds like they also did a ...
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How should an adult lead a group of child cyclists?

Tl;dr: leading from the back is a good idea most of the time I'm going to assume that you are the only adult in the group, but in that case you'll need to delegate some responsibility to a competent ...
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Is there a way to know if someone is drafting behind without turning your head back or trying to hear the noises?

A group riding together and cooperating will ride to a set speed, so you'll be surging if you exceed that speed for long. A simple wheel-magnet speedo and bike computer helps show this on your bars ...
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Fixie vs Road Bike - the right fixie bike for bunch rides

Disclaimer: I am a fixie hater. I'll try to answer this as if I was impartial. Proper road bikes (Including the Moulton) are the machines for speed, and always have been (unless you're on a velodrome)...
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How to handle motorists' dangerous behaviour with an impassable group?

Don't create the situation in the first place. Every large event I've ever been on would either have the roads closed down, or send the riders out in waves so as not to create a situation where a car ...
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Group ride - Proper descent etiquette

Summary If the description above is accurate, Rider A operated their bicycle correctly, and gave enough clearance to riders still in the paceline. Remembering that we weren't there in person, there ...
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Fixie vs Road Bike - the right fixie bike for bunch rides

Who rides fixes? Roadies who have got bored with always being out the front? Maybe its someone wanting to make a statement to the "Freds" (look it up) in the group I once did a 160km ride where some ...
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Is there a way to know if someone is drafting behind without turning your head back or trying to hear the noises?

On a sunny day you can often see the shadows without moving your head, so long as the sun isn't in front of you or too high. I sometimes pick up wheel suckers when commuting and while my commuter bike ...
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Waiting for Dropped Riders - Group Ride Etiquette

There is a lot to unpack on group riding etiquette and waiting for slower riders. Some people ride for social reasons and some people ride mainly for fitness so it can be difficult to balance everyone'...
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How should an adult lead a group of child cyclists?

The whole discussion shows that having only one adult is unsafe for the kids. Lead from the front, you'll be unable to supervise them correctly (even with a mirror) and address dangerous behaviours on ...
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Group riding etiquette

If you did nothing to impede the group passing you, you basically did nothing wrong, and the rider who said you should have pulled over was out of line. As you stayed to the right and had riders to ...
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How to handle motorists' dangerous behaviour with an impassable group?

I'm not entirely sure about the relevant legislation. However, as the question contains "deutch" I'll give the situation for Germany plus an update about Switzerland. I'd expect a) the situation to be ...
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Group ride - Proper descent etiquette

Apologies, this answer is somewhat at a tangent (Weiwen Ng already gave a great answer). Irrespective of who is technically right or wrong from an etiquette standpoint, Rider B can resolve this in ...
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Waiting for Dropped Riders - Group Ride Etiquette

Depends on the ride culture and how familiar people are. When I go riding with a group, its generally with a decent variation in riding ability and familiarity in riding in a group. Also, not ...
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What's the best way to shield a rider from the wind in a group (most aero position in the group)?

When you're in font of the rider that you want to help, then the more aero you are, the less shelter you give. Riding in a low body position, head tucked and arms narrow makes it easier to ride at ...
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How should an adult lead a group of child cyclists?

I'll offer a counterpoint to ChrisH's view, because whether one adult group leader should be at the front or the rear of the group is a good way to constrain this open-ended problem. Say you take the ...
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Groups of cyclists entering intersection having right-of-way?

Austria (AT) - StVO §68, section 2 Radfahrer in Gruppen ab zehn Personen ist das Queren einer Kreuzung im Verband durch den übrigen Fahrzeugverkehr zu erlauben. Dabei sind beim Einfahren in die ...
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How to handle motorists' dangerous behaviour with an impassable group?

Context about OP's ride: There was a climate demonstration in Switzerland and people organized to ride there in groups, over large distances. So it was very much like a critical mass, but as a one off ...
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Groups of cyclists entering intersection having right-of-way?

Not entirely similar to the Spanish situation, but the Belgians have special rules for groups consisting of 15 or more cyclists, as written in Article 43 of the Roadcode (Wegcode). The law makes a ...
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Waiting for Dropped Riders - Group Ride Etiquette

I think the idea is that by waiting for you at the top, and letting you rejoin, they are already providing enough help for people who aren't as strong riders. Once you have rejoined the group and are ...
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Fixie vs Road Bike - the right fixie bike for bunch rides

For context, I have been doing group rides for about 20 years now, raced at the cat 1/2 level for a good portion of that, and had a fixed gear obsession off and on for many years too. Riding fixed is ...
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Group ride - Proper descent etiquette

Riding with others is very much a Trust-Fall exercise. If anyone doesn't gel with your group, it can cause issues with the dynamic and that can grow into full-on accidents. Sometimes it's best to set ...
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Etiquette (and common sense) rules for MTB cyclists

This depends heavily on geography and individual trail systems. For example, in US National Forests, cyclists yield to hikers and equestrians, hikers only yield to equestrians, and uphill traffic has ...
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How close do riders follow their wheel/attack

How close do peloton riders typically and strategically follow each other's wheel/attack? At the higher levels of racing you are often try to tuck your wheel as close as you you can stand, usually ...
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How to handle motorists' dangerous behaviour with an impassable group?

I'm both a cyclist and a motorist, so I know this situation from both sides, I suppose. In my experience, these situations can be avoided, if people are willing to be reasonable - once you move into ...
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Fixie vs Road Bike - the right fixie bike for bunch rides

Engineer and fixed gear rider here, hello. My top speed on flat on fixed is 1 km/h less than on geared bike with similar wheels, and I'd explain that with my geared bike having lower handlebars. On ...
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Groups of cyclists entering intersection having right-of-way?

In Sweden, cycling in a group is more or less illegal (but not enforced), and each cyclist is treated as an individual vehicle with regards to right of way etc. The law specifically states that the ...
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Groups of cyclists entering intersection having right-of-way?

🇩🇪 Germany, StVO § 27 on "Verbände" (closed groups) It has clear lower bound on the number of participants, and delegates the responsibility for the whole group to those in the front: § ...
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Is there a way to know if someone is drafting behind without turning your head back or trying to hear the noises?

A bike mirror allows you to see what's behind you while you're facing ahead. If you're concerned with the width of your bike during group rides, you can opt for a helmet or frame-mounted mirror ...
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How to "fit in" a cycling bunch?

I've heard once: if a person offers you a gift and you don't accept it - it remains the property of the other person. And it's the same with criticism. And thus, if you engage yourself into a ...
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