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I am curious if anyone has put larger tires (mountainish) on their road bike. I am thinking about doing this to do some riding on gravel roads/touring/commuting from rural areas. I have an older steel Norco. How rough can I ride this with bigger tires without damaging the bike? (Purely just for curiosity. I am not planning on doing any drops etc but if I drop off a curb now and then does that matter?)

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    Large wheels on a road bicycle is done for cyclocross events. Think racing, on road, off road, on foot, and mud.
    – Greyhound
    Commented May 4, 2011 at 22:50

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Road frames come in a wide variety of styles, so it's impossible to give an exact answer without knowing more about your bike. Also keep in mind that wider tires also have a larger diameter, so your bike has to have enough clearance for both.

A typical modern road bike with caliper brakes is going to have very tight tolerances: many will max out at a 28mm tire, some at only 25mm. When mine was built, I had the frame customized and used long reach brakes just to allow 28mm tires plus fenders -- even then it's a tight fit. Another problem with calipers and wide tires is that you may not have enough brake cable slack to remove the wheel easily (I have to deflate mine slightly to get the tire past the brake shoes).

Touring and cyclocross frames tend to be built with much more generous proportions and have room for bigger tires. Using cantilever brakes also helps give much more tire clearance vs. calipers. My last touring frame used 32mm tires and could have easily gone up to at least 35mm, if not bigger.

If you're putting on much larger tires, you should also consider larger rims (see Sheldon Brown's tire/rim sizing chart). Using a big tire on too small a rim is a recipe for trouble. Plus a wider rim adds more strength. So you may need a wheel rebuild to make this happen.

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  • If the pinch point is the front derailleur's band (if band-on type) you could use a carbon band to give an extra mm or two clearance at that point
    – inbike
    Commented Apr 27, 2015 at 11:33
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Well, it depends a lot on the specific model of bike, and likely even on the exact frame size. You can probably eyeball it to get a good idea. Remember that larger tires are both wider and stick out more from the wheel. On a road bike, odds are high that you can put a slightly larger (say, go from 25mm to 30mm) tire but not a hugely larger tire. If you want to make a big jump you probably also want to get wheels with a wider rim. Note that for off-road tires, the knobs aren't usually counted in the mm size but definitely do affect whether or not the tires fit on your bike.

Look for:

  1. Front and rear: Brake clearance — can a larger tire fit in the brakes? If this is the only issue, you can get different brakes
  2. Rear: Stay width — will a wider tire rub on any of the stays (rear)?
  3. Rear: Stay bridge clearance* — will a larger tire hit the bridge between seat stays or chain stays?
  4. Rear: Seat tube clearance — many bikes have a geometry where too large of a wheel/tire will hit the seat tube above the cranks
  5. Front: Fork clearance — how much room is there under the fork crown? (height and width)
  6. Front: Down tube clearance — how much extra room before the front tire hits the downtube?
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If your bike has 700C wheels, you could convert to 650B. The wheel radius is only 25mm less, so most things work the same, but you have that much more room for tires and fenders.

You'll probably need to replace your brakes with long-reach brakes.

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    +1 for remembering to mention the switch to long reach brakes with this suggestion.
    – Gary.Ray
    Commented Oct 26, 2010 at 3:00
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In the eight years since this question was written, road-style bikes with fatter, grippier tyres for off-road use have become pretty common. They're usually called "gravel bikes" or "adventure bikes". Plenty of companies are making bikes of this type: essentially, a relaxed-geometry road-ish frame with enough tyre clearance for something like 40mm tyres for use on ground that's, say, as rough as a hiking trail but not so rough that you'd need a mountain bike.

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    My impression is that as cyclocross bikes become increasingly popular as an all-around bicycle, manufacturers started coming out with "gravel" or "adventure" bikes more tuned to what people were actually using some of the cyclocross bikes for. Commented Dec 7, 2018 at 15:21
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    Bear in mind though that UCI limits tyre width in cyclo-cross to 35 mm at most. Many cyclo-cross bikes built for reaching will not allow much wider tyres than that. Purpose built gravel bikes often begin at 40 mm tyres. Lack of 'braze-ons' and geometry are also distinguishing aspects that may make a cyclo-cross bike an entirely different beast.
    – gschenk
    Commented Dec 7, 2018 at 23:02
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For our small expedition with our bicycles in Patagonia we invested into slightly larger tires and more durable ones (we choose the Schwalbe Marathon XR in 700C, the widest our bike frame could accomodate).

It did quite a change, you hear more the tire noises, it helps better in muddy terrain and feels more confortable in gravel roads or in the fields. However, it's not really good in sandy parts or when the gravels are too big or too loose.

Overall it was a good and needed change, it would have been much less confortable to ride down in Patagonia with out those wider tires.

If you decide to change yours, follow freiheit advice or go pay a visit to a local bicycle shop. It's not always possible to put different tires because of the rim, brakes or frame.

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I have a Norco Search 2017 Sora and actually has 700x38C tires (B'Twin tires). It came originally with Schwalbe Road Cruiser 700x32c K-Guard. So, it depends what are the height and width of the fork.

Norco Search 2017 Sora with B'Twin 700x38C tires

Closeup of B'Twin 700x38C tires

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    When the question was posted in 2010, this would have been called cyclocross or touring bike.
    – ojs
    Commented Dec 7, 2018 at 12:22
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    The subtle difference here is that this is a bike sold with larger tyres originally. OP's "older steel" bike could be quite restrictive on tyre width by the frame.
    – Criggie
    Commented Dec 7, 2018 at 20:45

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