I have a question about rims based on information in another question. The person asking states that he doesn't want his rims wearing down. Is this really a problem? Assuming you don't wear the brake pads down to the metal, can the rubber pads actually wear down rims? Does it make a difference if you use aluminium, steel, or carbon rims? My rims are aluminium with tiny grooves on them. Is there anything I should look for to ensure that they aren't worn down? I have over 10,000 KM of mostly city riding on my bike.

  • This is an excellent reason to never stop riding. Ever. :) Commented Jun 2, 2011 at 15:11
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    ...as an illustration I did finally have a very very worn rim fail quite dramatically on my mtn bike when my friend tried to pump the tires up to 90 psi for a road ride (I wasn't paying attention). The pressure split the rim wall in half about a third of the way around the wheel. It was quite a bang! Note however the rims were ~ 10 years old with lots and lots of hard miles on them combined with an unrealistic choice of tire pressure.
    – DQdlM
    Commented Jun 2, 2011 at 15:11
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    @KennyPeanuts: I've had exactly the same thing hppen to me! (and my rim was only 3 years old). I had neglected to replace the front brake pads for a few months, which had created a deep groove in the rim weakening it considerably.
    – Macke
    Commented Jun 2, 2011 at 19:19
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    Actually, normal braking wears down rims. With normal braking, you wind up with grit between the pads and rim. The "grit" is a harder material than the rim; so wears on the rim.
    – user313
    Commented Jun 2, 2011 at 22:34

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I have worn through quite a few rims, mostly because I live in a hilly area and I ride my bikes more than I clean them. That said, I do think that if you are to clean anything on a bike then the rims are probably what you want to be cleaning most importantly.

A couple of years ago I inflated the tyres to the value on the sidewall, walked away from the garage and heard a very loud bang. The rim had split in two on one side and I was very glad I was not in the shed at that time.

A year before that - on a small wheeled folding bike - I had a similar problem. Although I had been running some experimental brake blocks that were supposed to be 'extra good' the problem was the wheel size - smaller wheels wear out quicker because there is a smaller braking surface. A 5cm long section appeared buckled, as if I had hit a kerb, which I never do on a folding bike for obvious reasons.

I have also had some high-end Mavic rims wear through. Those had holes in the outer sidewall but they did not fail in a catastrophic way. However, they did feel 'spongy' and that was not just spoke tension.

Obviously the brakes on my 3-speed will never wear through its 50's vintage genuine-stainless-steel rims, but stopping distances are comparable to what you get with an aircraft carrier. Steel is such a no-no for rims - heavy and useless under braking.

As for how to mitigate against catastrophic rim failure, you may want to consider getting wheels with 'wear indicators' in them. A lot of the better MTBs and Road Bikes have these. Alex Rims - as found on Giant MTB's have the 'wear indicator' - this appears as a black line in the side of the rim. This should stand out against the un-anodized sidewall and when it does not you could potentially have problemos. I have not tried them myself, personally I think that it is better to have a feel for one's bike - if the wheel is too springy you know that it is on its way. The problem is rarely with the front rim (unless you do all your braking on the front). During regular cleaning you can feel the concave side of the rim, and those grooves but you don't really know if they are getting a bit too paper thin.

Returning to my comparative experience of the Mavic's that survived having big holes in them and the cheap rims that failed, I would be more inclined to go for rims like the Mavic where the outer sidewall is not 100% important to the structural integrity. The 'wear line' is a good idea but not really for me.

I managed 6000 miles - 25 miles *5 * 50 on the folding bike before the rims went, this was a hard commute with a lot of braking due to how London is a 'sliding block puzzle'. 6000 miles is an accurate guess on how long the cheapo rims on that bike lasted, that is around the 10K mark in 'clicks'. I did trial quite a few products on that bike including some 'extra good' brake blocks. The circumference braking area was probably half that of your bike, so, by rule of thumb I reckon you have got 1/3 to 1/2 way through your rims.

Nowadays I do not reach for the back brake so readily - certainly not automatically when the front one will do. For me rim wear is a real consideration.

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    "The problem is rarely with the front rim (unless you do all your braking on the front)." Riders who use the back brake more are unlikely to be doing the mileage to wear out a rim. The most effective braking is done on the front wheel.
    – Criggie
    Commented Aug 16, 2016 at 19:59
  • The "holes" in your Mavic rim might be just the wear indicators as used on high-end rims: instead of having a groove on the outside which wears away (and you might forget that it ever was there), there is a tube-ring-shaped cavity on the inside of the rim wall. When the rim has worn to the point to let this appear to the outside it is really hard to overlook yet will not fail catastrophically. Thus it leaves you time to replace the rim. Commented Apr 26, 2021 at 20:52

Short Answer: Yes

Longer Answer: Yes, but maybe not for the reasons you are thinking of. Rim wear is mainly caused by dirt and grime that gets caught between the brakes and the rim, rubbing it like sand paper. The most important thing to do is clean your rims and pads as often as possible. For that matter clean your drive train as well.

As far as different materials go, it is a lot easier to bend back steel than aluminium or carbon. So if you do have a steel rim you are better off if something goes wrong. There is a tool called a dental caliper (pictured below) that can help you find out if your rim is worn down.

Here is an interesting story and some good info on bent rims.

Dental Claiper

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    based on the info in the link I think the dental caliper is used to determine the rim thickness (i.e., wear) and not if it is bent.
    – DQdlM
    Commented Jun 2, 2011 at 15:17
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    I think what he is doing is looking at rim thickness compared to what it was originally. Such that if your rims are worn down, not necessarily bent, it is time to replace them. I'll edit my answer accordingly. Commented Jun 2, 2011 at 17:15
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    One thing you can do to help reduce wear is to squeeze and release the brakes several times (vs simply steadily squeezing) when first stopping after riding through grimy conditions. This helps clean off the grime with minimal scoring of the rims. Commented Oct 29, 2012 at 15:55

A friend's back rim failed recently while she was riding. We're not really sure what happened, but suspect that the rim wall was thin and worn. Compare intact left side to buckled right side:

Intact left side Buckled right side

She was riding when it failed -- her tire blew off one side of her rim and her tube exploded -- scary but she wasn't hurt.


In response to comments below:

  • I think the wheels are aluminum -- I didn't test this with a magnet -- but they are Mavic Aksium Race wheels, which I can only find in aluminum. The decals look like the ones on this 2012 wheel:

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  • I think the wheel failed due to rim wear because the rim is very worn down, with a deep rounded groove, where the breaks met the rim. A structural failure by folding outwards indicates the rim wall was weakened. She had very recently (10 minutes earlier?) inflated her tires to 120 PSI when the failure happened.

  • The break pads are black Shimano pads that were installed in 2016. I don't know what make or model the previous break pads were. My friend rode on these wheels for about year, after receiving them second hand and well used. She commutes 8 miles round trip every weekday, year round, but doesn't do any long distance recreational riding.

  • Good work including photos, thank you. Looks like an old steel rim to me ?
    – Criggie
    Commented Feb 18, 2016 at 0:47
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    @Criggie: I think they're aluminum -- they are modern looking and have decals on them, but you can't see this in the picture.
    – ntc2
    Commented Feb 18, 2016 at 1:29
  • Welcome to Bicycles SE. As it stands, it sounds like you are unsure that this failure is due to rim wear. Since you are unsure, please update your post to say what leads you to that conclusion. It would also be helpful if you mentioned the type of rim and the type of brake pads, since the OP specifically asks about that.
    – jimchristie
    Commented Feb 18, 2016 at 1:44
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    @Criggie: I've asked for another picture, from the side showing the decals; that should resolve the "what wheel" question.
    – ntc2
    Commented Feb 18, 2016 at 18:29
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    @jimirings: I've updated my answer in response to your comment.
    – ntc2
    Commented Feb 21, 2016 at 6:00

Yes like other parts they wear down. The groove on the side of your rim is likely a wear indicator. Many companies such as Alex, Weinmann and others utilize this type groove although most consumers don't realize that is it's purpose.

From Alex Wheels: "Our 0.3mm deep circumference line appears on both sidewall surfaces. When the sidewall becomes thinner the color of indicator become lighter and hard to tell the difference between the CNC machining and the indicator , it’s recommended to replace the rim."

Others do not change color, they just simply aren't a groove anymore!


Yes, they do, and that's what the groove on your rim is for. If your brake pads are properly adjusted, they wear a rut in the rim, giving it a concave shape. This process is imaginatively described as "concaving". As always, the late Sheldon Brown has written on the subject: look for the heading Rim Issues.

When you can't see the groove in the rim any more, it's due for replacement. If the rim is full of ridges before then, it can be smoothed by a specialist using a special kind of file, but I don't imagine this is really worth it any more.

As others have said, the brake pads themselves aren't responsible for the wear: they're pretty soft. But the penalty for this softness is that they're not so good at shifting any grit that gets between the pad and the rim. On a car's disc brakes, most grit gets removed quickly owing to the hardness of the brakes, the faster spinning, and the immense pressure, but on bike discs and especially on rims, any grit will stick around for a while, wearing gouges out of your rim. Fine particles can embed themselves in the pads to continue to wear the rim down.

This also means that the rate of wear depends heavily on the conditions you habitually ride in. If your bike is an all-year commuter bike it'll see more rim wear than a fair-weather bike. That muddy, off-road shortcut you take will be taking its toll as well. Worse yet is a proper mountain bike that's always ridden off-road on dusty and/or muddy trails.


I can offer an anecdote that suggests that proper maintenance is a good thing!

My winter bike, which I just barely maintained, as I wore them down into the ground and then threw them out, riding all winter long in Toronto. I also only bought cheap junk bikes to do this with. Better bikes for nicer weather.

As others have noted, letting the pads wear down, or dirt between the pads and the rim can easily destroy a rim.

Twice (I should have learned) I had the brakes pierce the rim, get buried, and I flew over the handlebars. Once onto the sidewalk, once onto the road.

It was dumb, and painful. Don't do it.

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    For riding in winter in Toronto, why not use a nice aluminium bike with disc brakes? How would winter be bad for an aluminium bike?
    – ChrisW
    Commented Jun 3, 2011 at 0:50
  • @ChrisW My theory was cheap bike, ought to last one or two winters at most. I ride them into the ground. (Used to do this, now in Joisey, not biking as much).
    – geoffc
    Commented Jun 3, 2011 at 1:34

Mountain bikes are much more prone to this, as they are commonly ridden in dirt, sand, mud, and other crud that acts like a grinding compound on the rims. Bikes ridden in more forgiving environments will likely not exhibit any appreciable wear for a very long time. My particular patrol bike is about 15 years old, with the original rims....

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    One of the reasons to use disc brakes.
    – e100
    Commented Jun 2, 2011 at 18:02
  • The determining factor is what you ride through, not the type of bike. Ride through crud, crud accumulates on the pads and causes wear every time you squeeze the levers.
    – djangodude
    Commented Oct 29, 2012 at 17:27

I had a Mavic 222 rim fail earlier this year.

The rim was around ten years old but had spent around 6 of these unused in a garage. The rim wall split, and the inner tub popped out locking the back wheel against the frame, I just managed to keep control of the bike, as I was going quiet fast at the time.

Thank goodness it was the rear wheel.

I replaced both rims, and now only use the back brake 90% of the time. I would rather wear through the rear rim, than the front for sure.

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    But you get so much better braking power off the front brake. Probably better to just use your front brake like you should, and replace the rims before they are broken. However, I'm definitely looking to use disc brakes in the next couple years so I don't have to deal with my rims wearing down. I'd rather replace a rotor than a rim, which usually requires replacing the whole wheel, because my rims aren't that amazing.
    – Kibbee
    Commented Oct 29, 2012 at 18:56

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