If have a Shimano FH-M475 rear hub, the cones are pitted and need replacement, the bearing cup on the drive side is pitted, probably still usable, but will never be great. The left side cup is still good.

My question is can the drive side cup be replaced, is it part for the freewheel, or is the hub toast and do I need to use it as an excuse to upgrade to something a lot better?

This is a bike that has only done around 1000km (all off road in mostly dry) conditions. The grease in the hubs was clean when I stripped the hubs. Any reason why the hubs (front one has trashed the cones, but not the bearing race, back one trashed the cones and on race) have failed so quickly? Could it be over tightened in the shop? I never checked the hubs, the wheels were on the bike when bought new from the shop, and have never been removed. There was no play in the wheels, so I never had reason to check the bearings.

  • Could you please clarify whether the damage is on the cone (the nut) or inside the hub (ie part of the wheel's center) ? Or both. – Criggie Nov 29 '15 at 20:40
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    Cones are pitted and need replacing, I will put new bearings in - I know what needs to be done. Hub race (cup) is pitted in the drive side - which is the bit I am not sure about. – mattnz Nov 29 '15 at 20:47

You are lucky, bearing races (or cups, as said in the other answer) on Shimano hubs are not replaceable but you can replace the rear drive side by replacing the entire freehub body. It can be unscrewed from the hub with a 10mm hex wrench.

I am not sure if the freehub bodies are available as spare parts, but it isn't too expensive to get a new FH-475 and use it for parts. You should replace the balls and probably the cone on drive side, too.

In my experience, the low end Shimano hubs (no name, Acera, Alivio) don't wear well. Even though XT has similar construction and doesn't cost much more, the sealing and materials are better and the result is far more durable. On the down side, replacing entire hub requires rebuilding the wheel, which will probably cost more than a new wheel if you don't do it yourself.

  • Thanks for the suggestion to use a new one for parts. Was thinking a wheel rebuilt with XT version M576 - do you know if the M576 freehub will fit the M475? – mattnz Nov 29 '15 at 20:37
  • No idea. I don't see why Shimano would invent new thread dimensions for different models, but on the other hand I haven't seen any information about the freewheel body threads or compatibility tables. – ojs Nov 29 '15 at 20:42
  • For the cost of a freehub it may be cheaper to just buy the whole hub and take off the parts you need. I know I was able to find the same XT hub I was needing an axle for, being sold 25% cheaper than just the axle. – Bikebum Dec 1 '15 at 14:54

Overtightning of the cones normally causes spalling (where tiny flakes of the hardened bearing running surface flake off) I've mostly seen this on the cone (the nut that is outermost), not the cup side of the bearing (which is an integral part of the wheel hub.)

Good news is that a shimano cone is replaceable, and depending on size should cost between $5 and $25 to buy the cone only, from your LBS. Do replace all the bearings for both side while you're in the axle, they're under $5 a full set. You'll need one maybe two cone spanners of the right size, and a normal spanner, plus rags and solvent like petrol for cleaning. And bearing grease... I just use marine grade tractor grease same as the bearings in my landy.

TIP: You may need to take any dust shield off the old cone and fit it to the new one. Use a suitably sized socket to press on the shield but not the cone and squeeze it up in a vice. Metal ones normally work well but I've never been able to remove a plastic dust shield; they just bend.

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    Thanks - have all the tools and knowledge - have replaced bearings and cones many times, but never been in a situation of trashing the cups. The M745 has no dust seals to speak of - possibly the problem is I got caught out with not enough maintenance. I have hubs that are 25 years old and just as neglected in better condition than these. – mattnz Nov 29 '15 at 20:42
  • Excellent - sorry if I seemed to be talking down... its hard to scale the answer sometimes. No insult intended. Keep an eye on trademe for parts, perhaps a replacement hub or a complete wheel will be better than finding a freewheel to fit your hub. Finally try the local bike coop. – Criggie Nov 29 '15 at 20:49

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